I had an interesting conversation with a feminist on Reddit. She replied to my post about why left-wingers support feminism. In the post, I said I don’t believe in a patriarchy or toxic masculinity.

She cited examples of women being forced to marry young as a patriarchal issue. She cited women having to bear children in America without abortion rights as a patriarchal issue. She cited women being domestically abused as a patriarchal issue.

I told her women being forced to marry young was more prevalent in the past. Nowadays, forced marriages are illegal. The examples she cited don’t indicate a patriarchy, because the average man (most men) don’t have more power than the average women. For example, a man is more likely to be arrested for domestic violence even if he is the victim.

Feminists believe there is a patriarchy because they look at the men, in the top 1% or 5%. They assume all other men have very minimal issues in their lives. Most rich people will be treated better, regardless of gender.

When I disagreed with the feminist, she called me stupid and an “incel.” I remained calm and told her I’m not an “incel.” It seems like feminists want men to think in a gynocentric point of view. Anything that isn’t gynocentric seems misogynistic to them. I don’t think advocating for men’s issues and women’s issues is mutually exclusive.

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    Feminists believe there is a patriarchy because they look at the men, in the top 1% or 5%. They assume all other men have very minimal issues in their lives. Most rich people will be treated better, regardless of gender.

    Also known as the apex fallacy.

    I don’t think advocating for men’s issues and women’s issues is mutually exclusive.

    Agreed. That’s why we advocate for an explicitly egalitarian approach.