• DarkGamer@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Why won’t he just cater to the pro-Hamas youth and abandon our international allies? What a jerk.

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      1 year ago

      My allies don’t kill my sailors. Or run concentration camps. Idk about yours.

      Also good job just spitting your opinion out without engaging with my comment beyond the surface level.

      Definitely a pattern I’ve noticed with Zionists.

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        Also good job just spitting your opinion out without engaging with my comment beyond the surface level.

        I can’t comment on your post without addressing all of it? That sounds convenient for whattaboutists. Okay, but only because you’re being a jerk about it:

        My allies don’t kill my sailors.

        Friendly fire and accidents happen in war. They apologized and made restitution.

        Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship. Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship’s identity. Others, including survivors of the attack, have rejected these conclusions and maintain that the attack was deliberate.
        In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3.32 million (equivalent to US$28 million in 2022) to the U.S. government in compensation for the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3.57 million ($28.5 million in 2022) to the men who had been wounded. In December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million ($21.3 million in 2022) as the final settlement for material damage to the ship plus 13 years of interest.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

        Being unforgiving is definitely a pattern I’ve noticed with anti-Zionists.


        genocidal regime … run concentration camps.

        Is building border security around and blockading a belligerent nation at war with you the same as a concentration camp? It’s arguable. Usually people cannot leave concentration camps, and before this war got hot Gazans could leave through the Rafah gate ~300 per day. Israel is certainly not trying to eradicate Arabs or Muslims, which makes your accusation of genocide fall flat. I can tell you’re throwing around terms like, “genocide,” and, “concentration camps,” even when they aren’t applicable, because it makes Israel seem hypocritical, even though it isn’t a similar situation to when these were used against Jews by the Nazis.

        The thing about international geopolitics is that often one must choose their allies based on mutual benefit and not complete moral alignment, this is how the US found itself allied with many nations that have far worse human rights records than Israel does. Ignoring the realpolitik for moral outrage is a huge disadvantage, and is what put Palestine in the situation it is currently in.


        illegally acquired nukes

        This was clearly the right move for them, given how differently things have played out for nations that do not have them. So far they have been responsible with them.


        interfered in our elections

        This is morally grey, as they are interfering with our politics to gain support and exist as a country. I find this different than interfering to sow division and promote fascism like Russia did.

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          Your facts don’t matter here. That the US has an army of diplomats and analysts is no match for the tik tok generation of political affairs experts here.

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          Lol so you believe that they mistook a flagged US ship for an Egyptian ship?

          Well I wish we would take a page on forgiveness out of Israel’s book.