• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    11 months ago

    I mean, she’s not wrong, but she knows you start by getting 290 votes in the House, right? The same group of people who couldn’t get 218 to decide who their own leader was?

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      11 months ago

      This might have been a good time to hit them with some reverse-psychology. Team up with Hillary to lobby FOR self-pardons and watch the GOP house have a stroke.

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        11 months ago

        I don’t know why stuff like that isn’t tried more often, in more artful ways obviously.

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          11 months ago

          Realistically because they could care less about opposing the dems if it keeps their power. If they actually tried some reverse psychology shit like that the GOP would happily let it pass and show how they are more bipartisan than those ‘filthy’ liberals. They aren’t all complete idiots, they are fascists trying to dismantle our democracy.

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              11 months ago

              No but she also doesn’t need to for her base, in fact it works better when they play the idiot stooge. It makes them relatable to their base and makes them seem incompetent to the opposition, to have such a naive take doesn’t help us when we are actively fighting a fascist takeover.

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            11 months ago

            If they actually tried some reverse psychology shit like that the GOP would happily let it pass and show how they are more bipartisan than those ‘filthy’ liberals.

            They’ve killed bills that they created and submitted themselves before, once the other party accepted said bills.

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              11 months ago

              You mean when riders were added on that they didn’t like? If the plan I responded about was actually put in place you wouldn’t be able to get away with riders and so subsequently there would be no reason for them to kill it, hence it being a bad idea.

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              Because you are forgetting about framing the narrative. Fox doesn’t need to tell its base about shit, just point to events in the past about how dems blocked GOP initiatives while parroting on about how great the GOP is for crossing isles to get something passed. They won’t tell the whole story and their base isn’t gonna search out the truth, they are gonna eat up what fox and the like serve up on a platter for them.

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      11 months ago

      Just say you don’t want Biden to pardon himself for his crimes and let the GOP go wild and vote it in.

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      11 months ago

      There is a 0% chance red states support any positive amendment to the Constitution, so any amendments are immediately dead in the water.

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      11 months ago

      That’s actually not the only route to getting a constitutional amendment. If 2/3 of the state legislatures in the country call a constitutional convention they can amend the Constitution independently of the Congress.

      Though the likelihood of that is also very slim.

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        11 months ago

        If we have a constitutional convention, enough legislatures are currently dominated by gerrymandered Republican supermajorities that we will literally be living in a christo-fascist, antebellum-esque state.

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        We’re actually closer to that right now, I think there are 4 states left who need to call for it.

        The problem with this method is the end game is still the same, you need ratification from 3/4 of the states and that won’t happen. Both sides will poison pill the other.

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        While I know the constitution allows for it, I don’t think that has ever actually been invoked.

        And right now, with more red states than blue, the last thing we want is a constitutional convention.

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          You’re being downvoted but you’re right. Right wing groups have been calling for a constitutional convention for years because they know they’d have outsized influence on it.

          A constitutional convention isn’t “let’s tackle this narrow issue,” it puts everything on the table. It’d be a disaster with the current makeup of the states.