You should never be incentivised to break the rules in a game. Cynical fouls have been a plague for a long time.
Just stop fucking with the game.
I don’t understand this obsession with doing “things” without setting out what they’re supposed to address and without setting out how they’re measure if they’re successful. Just slow the fuck down.
Tactical fouls are dead.
This is why I like the idea
Fuckin what? Bin VAR and stop all this nonsense. Let’s just go back to playing the game…
VAR isn’t the problem.
Poor use and badly constructed rules around its use is the problem
No thanks
if we’re going to go full hockey we should let players fight too
Let’s try and ruin football even more
Also imagine VAR taking 5 minutes on each sin bin decision on top of what we have already
If they had a sin bin and somehow decided the way to implement it was “we will review every sin bin decision and then put the player in the bin” rather than “we will put players in the bin and then review the decision, inviting them to rejoin the game before their time in the bin is up if the binning was unjust” that would be insane.
Tactical fouls have had a huge negative effect on the product on the field. This rule makes them worse to commit so hopefully it limits them.
The ten minute sin bin rule works great in rugby for yellows. I’ve thought for a long time it should be brought into football. Provided they mic up the refs and allow us to hear their deliberations.
It works because there’s not so much of an advantage, and it’s a lot harder to get yellows.
Let’s try and ruin football even more
God you all are so stuck on tradition. Change is ok. The sport isn’t perfect.
I’m guessing you’re an American?
Gonna end up with a 3rd half of just stoppage time
This is class, would rather them do it for professinal and intentional fouls that dont quite equate to a red but a yellow is not enough
Biggest issue with those fouls is that the rules currently only caution players if advantage isn’t played.
So defenders can blatantly impede an attack and impact it heavily, but if attackers keep the ball and a free kick isn’t given to there is no punishment.
Is that specific to professional fouls? Because referees are 100% allowed to return to a foul they played advantage on and give a card. I’ve never heard of the laws stating they cannot.
Biggest issue I have with the sport is how binary a lot of the rules are despite how low scoring it is. Sending offs and penalties basically kill a lot of games but there is basically no middle ground to them really. Sin bins are a great start imo, next I would love more indirect free kicks in the box.
Not sure about the sin bin thing before I hear more but one thing I think Football has needed for a long long time is allowing only the captain to approach the referee.
It’s frustrating to watch when a foul or something happens and then you get half the pitch sprint over to the ref to try and influence him into making some kind of decision.
Having the ref’s micced up so you can hear a conversation between them and the captain would make for good viewing whilst also improving the overall game I think.
Also the new trend of when a foul is given all the opposition players nonchalantly run over or next to the ball to stop a quick free kick. So frustrating. In rugby that free kick would be advanced 10 yards.
New trend ?
Advancing a free kick isn’t always beneficial in football though. It has been tried before.
Not at all serious suggestion, loosely based on some NFL rules, where the non-penalised team can choose between two outcomes:
Let the other team choose whether to advance it 10 yard or give the player a 2 minute sin binning.
100% agree. I’m at a point of just card anyone who yells at the ref. It’s insane how much time is wasted just watching grown men bitch and someone to stand one foot from the ball until the ref makes them back up.
It will ruin a lot of games like in rugby with the inconsistencies. On r/rugbyunion every post match thread is like 90% comments about the ref.
The ref is NOT the protagonist of the game.Okay… what is the problem people have with sin bins (aka orange cards)?
They can’t enforce the rules already in place, are we to believe they could handle this whole new system? Call me a cynic but I don’t have much faith.
My problem is how easier than other sports it is to waste time in football.
Rugby? If you’re down one man you need to bust your ass to pass time.Football? Foul someone, get in front of the ball; spend a minute for a throw-in or a goal kick. Fake an injury.
Before introducing sin bins, I need these anti-football behaviours addressed.
People live in this dream world where the rules of football never change.
From 1950-1990 the fundamental make up of the game changed absolutely loads. 2 points for a win, no penalty shootouts, pass backs, no red card for tackles from behind, offside if you’re level.
Football isn’t some holy doctrine that has always been like this so I have no idea why people are opposed to further positive change.
People think that removing a player for ten minutes is so mind-bogglingly complicated that we can’t possibly make it work, despite grassroots officials doing it across england for the last three years.
If they do this, they need to implement a mechanism whereby incorrect yellow cards can be rescinded.
Something along the lines of the tennis appeal system.Don’t copy Ruby , Ruby is rubbish
rather ice hockey , let the guys fight it out. Winner gets the free kick
This is a good idea imo a yellow card for some of these tactical fouls isn’t enough
Sin bins were piloted in 2018-19 and led to the Football Association reporting a 38% total reduction in dissent across 31 leagues.
They were then introduced across all levels of grassroots football from the 2019-20 season in an attempt to to improve levels of respect and fair play.
The rule change was then implemented up to step five of the National League system and tier three and below in women’s football.
This echoes my experience of them in grassroots 11 a side and sanctioned small sided football (in 5-7 a side they are two minutes).
I don’t see why they wouldn’t also work in professional football.
At grassroots level they have the big advantage of not having to deal with all the paperwork and admin of fining players.
One example I’ve seen them used quite well in is where you have a handbags at dawn type scenario with a bit of a melee and some pushing and shoving. A sin bin each for the two main antagonists tends to calm the game down without needing such drastic action as a red card.