• PersnickityPenguin
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    1 year ago

    Trump became president because the Russian state interfered in our elections. Full stop.

    • Jordan Lund@lemmy.one
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      1 year ago

      Also true, but it wouldn’t have happened if Clinton had actually campaigned in states she took for granted and didn’t say stupid shit about coal.

      • Kleinbonum@feddit.de
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        1 year ago

        Nothing Clinton said about coal was “stupid shit.”

        She just told people the truth, and people prefer to be lied to over hearing uncomfortable truths.

        Same happened to Al Gore: he told people the truth, and people went absolutely bonkers over that.

        By contrast, Trump told people exactly what they wanted to hear, even though it was clear to anyone that he was lying to them or promising them things that he could never, ever fulfill - and people loved it.

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          1 year ago

          Telling blue collar workers your goal is to end their industry is, indeed, stupid shit.

          We complain bitterly on the Left about Republican voters voting against their own self interest… well, when you have a Democratic candidate telling them the intent is to put them out of work? What do you expect them to do?