Try not working. Slaves being paid isn’t new. The defining feature is punishment for refusing to work. Furthermore southern states pretty quickly created the black codes after the amendment was passed with the intention of re-enslaving any black people who didn’t voluntarily remain on their plantations. This implicit system remained in use until the 1940’s. They also practiced debt slavery where workers who weren’t convicted of anything could be charged a debt by their employer and then legally kept as slaves. That also lasted until FDR.
Now we have the last remaining vestige where convicts are forced to work in jobs that do nothing for their rehabilitation. You don’t need years to learn how to clean or work a cafeteria. And the other big jobs aren’t available to ex-convicts. Until the 13th is amended we won’t have rehabilitation.
And if you’re worried about the pay, don’t be. They make literal pennies per hour and 80 percent of it is taken for costs.
When a society controlled by a majority gets to stipulate what is and is not a crime. You can’t see how that would lead to issues? I don’t like XYZ that you LOVE doing, so Ill go and make that a crime, now you are a criminal, better get to work.
You’re both in the right. This isn’t a black and white issue.
It’s a very humane thing to allow prisoners to still be useful, contribute to society, and learn new skills. As long as they get a fair wage, aren’t worked to the bone, and aren’t imprisoned solely to enrich some wannabe plantation owner, it can be a positive thing.
Digging a ditch? Farming? Both skills I don’t have. No idea what’s actually going on in the photo because I don’t have context. That’s kind of the point.
But I agree, they should be getting a fair wage. I even said that in my comment.
how is it slavery? criminals on work release are paid.
Try not working. Slaves being paid isn’t new. The defining feature is punishment for refusing to work. Furthermore southern states pretty quickly created the black codes after the amendment was passed with the intention of re-enslaving any black people who didn’t voluntarily remain on their plantations. This implicit system remained in use until the 1940’s. They also practiced debt slavery where workers who weren’t convicted of anything could be charged a debt by their employer and then legally kept as slaves. That also lasted until FDR.
Now we have the last remaining vestige where convicts are forced to work in jobs that do nothing for their rehabilitation. You don’t need years to learn how to clean or work a cafeteria. And the other big jobs aren’t available to ex-convicts. Until the 13th is amended we won’t have rehabilitation.
And if you’re worried about the pay, don’t be. They make literal pennies per hour and 80 percent of it is taken for costs.
When a society controlled by a majority gets to stipulate what is and is not a crime. You can’t see how that would lead to issues? I don’t like XYZ that you LOVE doing, so Ill go and make that a crime, now you are a criminal, better get to work.
You’re both in the right. This isn’t a black and white issue.
It’s a very humane thing to allow prisoners to still be useful, contribute to society, and learn new skills. As long as they get a fair wage, aren’t worked to the bone, and aren’t imprisoned solely to enrich some wannabe plantation owner, it can be a positive thing.
So… as long as pretty much everything about is different?
The premise of prisoners having jobs is the core thread here.
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Digging a ditch? Farming? Both skills I don’t have. No idea what’s actually going on in the photo because I don’t have context. That’s kind of the point.
But I agree, they should be getting a fair wage. I even said that in my comment.
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Don’t want to be a criminal? Don’t be black.
EZ
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Mf just pretending BLM never happened