Thierry Henry, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies discussing perception of American players in Europe
Read that a few years ago. Now, I’ve only been following football since '07 which is around the time time Dempsey made his move to Fulham. He was a thrill to watch and I’d reckon he def helped change some opinions around US players at the time with the likes of Pulisic or McKennie continuing to this day.
But just curious for a discussion, how prevalent are the stereotypes of US players today? Is it simply just banter or are there still managers who just don’t rate US players all that much.
Still waiting for a really top US player. I thought we’d have seen one by now.
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Charlie Davies is a bellend
I don’t think anyone really judges players based on their nationalities any more.
Here’s a link for those like me that don’t want to give the assholes at Daily Mail any clicks:
If there is a stereotype then I’d say it’s US goalkeepers can be very good, but we’ve yet to see anything other than a ‘decent’ outfield premier league level American.
There will be loads of nations where you could make similar comments about though. For example, if I think of Danes then again I can thing of a few good to great goalkeepers, but no amazing outfielders
bob Bradley and more recently Jesse marsch got huge ridicule
Rory Jennings or whatever his name is thinks Pulisic is shit, despite Pulisic pulling chelsea through both legs against real madrid in their UCL winning season…
So id say yea. Or he’s gaslighting.
I wouldn’t say there is a stereotype about the players at all, apart from not producing as much talent as they probably could. If you’re good enough you’re good enough, the PL has players from all over the world.
About the fans and analysis though…
I’d say Americans are still very much not considered good technical players. With the exception maybe of Reyna at Dortmund, the best American players are very much good at elements of the game involving, pace, physicality and aggression rather than what to do with the ball at their feet
It’s all due to the lack of play time during early childhood. Street football is nonexistent here.
I would say not against players. But more so agaisnt commentators, pundits, and supporters/fans. Kind of the ah what does he know, hes american attitude.
I’m just glad we don’t have the Pulisic nuthuggers polluting our sub anymore
Banter mostly. I will say Pulisic kinda didn’t do Americans any favors when he was critical of Tucel and all his father drama and the book he wrote.
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Yea we are bad, very bad. We don’t play well together, way to many back passes, horrible in front of goal, don’t put teams to the sword that we should, management and coaching is garbage, BUT we will get good at this sport, very good. Then we will dominate.
Football has always had a limited fanbase in the US because of competition with baseball, basketball, hockey, and American football. As far as high school sports are concerned, it’s on par with volleyball and tennis and lacrosse and field hockey.
There will always be a perceived gap between European football and American (soccer). We don’t have professional sponsorship of youth clubs or academies dedicated to training players. We don’t have a nationally organized youth program. We are not set up on the top level to be capable of promotion/relegation. American born players don’t necessarily get worldwide exposure because our culture doesn’t promote the game as much as it could.
Now, don’t misunderstand me. Fans of soccer in the US are passionate. Rivalries are intense. But the general opinion of the American game is that we do it wrong. That stigma sometimes makes it difficult for a player with dual citizenship to choose the USMNT.