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RyanF9 uses science to explain how Gore-Tex works and why you’re being ripped off.

  • lwuy9v5@lemmy.worldEnglish
    171·
    6 months ago

    Oh this dude makes good motorcycle videos.

    Another unfun fact (dunno if it’s mentioned in the video) is that Teflon is a PFAS that is currently in our environment and ground water in harmful amounts, is definitely giving us cancer, and can’t be easily extracted or broken down :(

    I hope we can go back to waxed coats and boots or something, soon.

    edit:// the video does mention it. Cool video

    • barsoapOPEnglish
      81·
      6 months ago

      Fjällräven still uses waxed stuff. Actually not even that expensive though somehow I think if I took my half as expensive Blåkläder pants and applied wax they’d be just as good, ultimately it’s a moderately heavy-weight polyester/cotton fabric, nothing too special.

    • gradyp@awful.systemsEnglish
      1·
      6 months ago

      This dude makes good videos. I’m going not a motorcycle guy but I watch his content for stuff like this video. I was also impressed by the PFAS angle this one took.

    • barsoapOPEnglish
      175·
      6 months ago

      An ad for what. Certainly not Gore-Tex. Have you any idea how marketing works.

      Yes the video contains a sponsored segment, like 99.9% of youtube videos. Or newspaper articles. Or any other kind of content on the internet.

      …what I seriously wonder though is if people are downvoting this because it deals with technology that doesn’t contain electrons.

      • Katlah@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        94·
        6 months ago

        The way you’ve decided to post this has made it an ad, the first think you see is “Check out brandname and get thing”. Putting a videos sponsor as the post content is generally not recommended.

        • barsoapOPEnglish
          123·
          6 months ago

          I’ve decided nothing that’s lemmy taking the beginning of youtube’s description and putting it there. FortNine (the youtube channel) put that there, because it’s their sponsor for the video. But fine I’ll manually add the stuff after to the post.

      • LWDEnglish
        1·
        6 months ago

        deleted by creator

      • jordanlund@lemmy.worldEnglish
        22·
        6 months ago

        It’s more about patents and trademarks than technology, would be a good submission for a business community.

        • barsoapOPEnglish
          92·
          6 months ago

          It’s a hell a lot more about technology as in PTFE vs. other membranes and actual experiments than random Musk posts. Or, currently at +362 on the sub frontpage, the white house threatening drug patents… not that drugs aren’t technology but I don’t see any pharmacology or chemistry in that article.

    • barsoapOPEnglish
      121·
      6 months ago

      Now that you’ve taken down the “is an ad” claim, how is this not about technology? It deals with membranes which let air pass but not water (though Gore-Tex isn’t particularly good at it).

    • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.oneEnglish
      3·
      6 months ago

      Not an ad, but pretty questionable for a YouTuber to put a plug for their sponsor as the frontmost text, when many of us use sponsorblock to actively avoid seeing such content.

      At least it’s a good warning not to click that link.

      • barsoapOPEnglish
        5·
        6 months ago

        Who reads youtube description texts? On youtube, that is, it’s lemmy which puts the thing in such a prominent place. The sponsor segment is towards the end and has a count-down bar so it’s easy to skip, and Ryan specifically says to not buy that stuff if you don’t need it.

          • barsoapOPEnglish
            3·
            6 months ago

            They have plenty of videos without sponsors, they’re not relying on YouTube to stay afloat in the first place they’re a motorcycle gear and parts store. You decide how trustworthy it is when you rip into Gore-Tex (primarily its price vs. performance nowadays) while selling, among plenty of alternatives, things with a Gore-Tex label. In essence what he’s saying is “Go ahead, buy the jacket that’s half as expensive”.

  • Jamie@jamie.moeEnglish
    52·
    6 months ago

    Interesting to find a RyanF9 video here and not in a motorcycle community. But yeah, probably most people here don’t have much interest in Gore-Tex unless they ride or do other outdoorsy things.

    • barsoapOPEnglish
      52·
      6 months ago

      I think I stumbled across F9 for some random tech video and then stayed for the cinematography and hijinks.

      Honestly hadn’t considered the neckbeard angle.

  • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nzEnglish
    41·
    6 months ago

    I learn so much from this channel, about things I never even knew I wanted to know about.

    Already seen this one, it’s great. Good post for technology community, this vid is packed with history and science.

  • guyrocket@kbin.social
    2·
    6 months ago

    I think this vid didn’t ask or explain enough. Like:
    Is PFOS / Gore Tex a health hazard if I wear it instead of eat it?
    What are the non gore tex alternatives and how do they stack up to gore tex and each other?
    Are any of the gore tex alternatives better or safer than gore tex?
    Should I really just use a sweater and/or a plastic bag?
    This was not the deep analysis I think this topic needs. Seemed mostly like a whack job on gore tex. Which may be deserved but I dont think I have enough info to m make good decisions after this vid.

    • barsoapOPEnglish
      1·
      6 months ago

      Is PFOS / Gore Tex a health hazard if I wear it instead of eat it?

      It’s not even a health hazard if ingested. That’s not the issue with the stuff.

      What are the non gore tex alternatives and how do they stack up to gore tex and each other?
      Are any of the gore tex alternatives better or safer than gore tex?

      There’s a quick graph, F9 has more in-depth reviews of specifically motorcycle gear in their videos. They’re a motorcycle (and recently bicycle) channel, not a “here’s this piece of tech and I’ll explain it” channel, though they do end up doing a lot of that.

      As to the safety aspect: Gore-Tex isn’t PTFE any more, it’s PE/PU like the rest. Dead dinosaurs, probably microplastics but not forever chemicals.

      Should I really just use a sweater and/or a plastic bag?

      You should also wear a baselayer. A material that wicks well as base (linen or merino are good, polyester is cheap but can easily get smelly), then something insulating, with lots of air in it, as mid-layer and make sure that it’s not tight because that doesn’t vibe with having air in it, then a shell layer which material-wise is more important to be waterproof than breathable: You can have flaps etc as water doesn’t tend to fall upwards.

      A sweater and appropriately tailored plastic bag thus isn’t a bad start, modulo that your probably cotton t-shirt as a baselayer isn’t a good idea, it’ll get wet from your own sweat and then you’ll be cold.

      This was not the deep analysis I think this topic needs.

      That would be a fucking dissertation. But I have something for you.

  • assplode@kbin.social
    2·
    6 months ago

    Really impressive that F9 is taking on Gore like this. They’re a famously vindictive and litigious company.

    I haven’t checked, but I’m guessing EVERYTHING he says about Gore Tex is an easily provable fact.

    If it wasn’t, Gore would sue fortnine.ca off the surface of the earth

  • BearOfaTimeEnglish
    21·
    6 months ago

    I’ve said this for years and everyone tells me I’m using it wrong, or buying knock-off brands.

    No, it doesn’t work as advertised.

    Yea, it’s good for sweat levels of moisture, but boots? Forget it.