• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    A toddler would happily push you off a cliff, but that doesn’t give you the right to push toddlers off cliffs.

    right, but the thing that makes it wrong to push a toddler off a cliff may not apply to non-human animals.

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      9 months ago

      Like what? What criteria would allow for toddlers to be given moral consideration that would exclude animals?

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                9 months ago

                ok well that line of argument falls prey to a line-drawing fallacy. there is a clear difference between people and non-human animals. even if there is no singular trait, or no less-than-complete set of traits that we can point to as the distinguishing mark, it is obvious that there is a difference or we wouldn’t discriminate between humans and non-human animals.

                SINCE THAT IS NOT WHERE YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE HEADING

                i would just say “we’re human” and, in light of the rebuttal to the NTT argument (which you weren’t conciously advancing), i think it’s that is sufficient.

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                  9 months ago

                  it is obvious that there is a difference or we wouldn’t discriminate between humans and non-human animals.

                  Isn’t this just the is-ought problem though? Just because we currently distinguish between animals and humans doesn’t mean we ought to.

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                    9 months ago

                    Isn’t this just the is-ought problem though?

                    i don’t think so. it’s clear that pigs aren’t human. they are different.