• flamingos-cant@feddit.uk
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    9 months ago

    i don’t know what it’s like to be a chicken or a pig

    But you do know what it’s like to suffer. And you know pigs, chickens, and other farm animals can suffer. Does that not count for anything? Or do you not consider suffering to be an inheriently bad thing?

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      9 months ago

      suffering isn’t inherently immoral, and almost no ethical system treats it as such (there is one that comes to mind but it’s got big problems)

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          9 months ago

          i think minimizing unnecessary suffering is probably a moral good, but not a moral duty.

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              9 months ago

              trying to prevent suffering might be laudable but i don’t think indifference in this respect is immoral.

              edit, i read too fast. i missed that you were asking about causing ME, A PERSON suffering. yea. you should be cognizant of that and avoid it when you can.

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                9 months ago

                I think being indifferent to the suffering you cause on those around you is a moral failing. You said yourself you aim to treat people how you want to be treated, do you not care if those around you inflict suffering on you? I don’t see how indifference to suffering can be universalised.

                Edit: didn’t see your edit before posting, I still don’t think you’ve justified why the unnecessary killing/causing suffering of a person and animal are different. Your argument seems very circular on this, killing humans and animals are different because they are different.

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                  9 months ago

                  i explained that my feelings on this were born out of the categorical imperative. i also hedged that, saying that im leaning lately toward virtue ethics rather than deontology, so i’m not really settled on my position at the moment.