Notes for a talk at ICMI with the following title: Feminism: Not “progressive”. Not “egalitarian”. Not “liberal”. Not “left-wing”.

  1. Feminism is not “progressive”: It’s regressive; it is based on misandry, sexist discrimination, hate & bias; it suppresses science (esp. on domestic violence, on female violence and on criminology in general); it is conspiracist; it asserts the existence of a non-existent entity “Patriarchy”; it is ultra-conservative, in its treating women as helpless infants. Infantilism about women is conservative, not progressive.

  2. Feminism is not “egalitarian”: It demands, and achieves, preferential treatment for a privileged group (women). By definition, this is anti-egalitarian.

  3. Feminism is not “liberal”: To the contrary, it is socially conservative—women are infants, without agency; it is illiberal & authoritarian; it demands increasing state power; it uses the police and institutional power as a tool of social control; it is moralistic & Puritan. More or less by definition, these are central principle of state-enforced illiberalism, social illiberalism and social conservatism.

  4. Feminism is not “left-wing”: It has no interest in economic fairness (esp. those at the bottom of society); it is openly anti-working-class. Marxism and socialism are, by definition, left-wing because their primary concern is with economic exploitation, wage slavery, alienation of the worker, co-erced theft of their labour, and so on. Feminism is, in no way, “left-wing”. Feminism is a form of Identity Politics. This, in general, is an anti-left-wing position. Furthermore, it is a form of Identity Politics closely aligned with the State, policing, punishment and incarceration (so-called carceral feminism). Again, these are not “left-wing”. They have been traditionally right-wing positions for centuries.

The ICMI20 talk is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZQf1JDa28Y&list=PLOXfnai0-o0I8BtOpmjbn_3FGYBHiV64S

  • Clairvoidance@kbin.social
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    Assuming your colleague had gotten raises through merit, it’s obviously silly to roll that back, I would’ve thought that they’d account for raises given that it wasn’t actually implied that they had to act on this, just disclose the difference, and this reminds me I’m probably foolish in imagining such a thing would just be itself in a vacuum (ie not fuck up things that are kinda encouraging people to do their job better)

    Could you give me the title of this specific paper

    Sorry for the long wait, “Gender and types of intimate partner violence: A response to an anti-feminist” (literature review) by Johnson MP. in 2011, which was a year before
    I use this paper most of all to show what feminist academics thought even 10 years ago, since the video seemed to still have these misconceptions, and they mostly argue against Straus for misrepresentations and ill conclusions of others’ works and beliefs.

    Your second study doesn’t seem to support the point based on its abstract, from point a to f

    First Study: References Examining Assaults by Women on Their Spouses or Male Partners: An Updated Annotated
    is a bit of a mess, as most of the things citing it doesn’t really use it for the purpose of saying “women are as physically aggressive as men”, and it for some reason brings a child-abuse study(?), a bunch of anecdotes, and an internet survey from the middle of a sociologist’s book (not paper) up in its first part, but this put me down a further rabbithole of Gender Symmetry discussion which I hadn’t delved into before, 1 2 and I’ll admit it at the very least doesn’t seem like a settled debate, so I retract what I have to say about Gender Symmetry itself since idk anymore

    I don’t think it is unreasonable to assume that these aspects may skew the statistics on perpetration rates between men and women.

    I fully agree, (think my wall even says so) but from any not-radfem feminist perspective, this seems to be parts we acknowledge, it’s just also viewed as caused by Patriarchal society as it previously stood and perpetuated by how it currently stands

    Thanks for your input as well, it forced me to learn a little more about what I don’t know