Broadly speaking, religion is not diminished by scientific discovery, it is diminished by people’s material needs being met and their prospects looking good. Our friend Marx called that one a long time ago, but modern studies on secularization say the same thing.
But Israel/Palestine is not about religion except as a smokescreen. It is about race, specifically an overwhelmingly white population of settler colonists creating and expanding an ethnostate. The aggrievement of the Palestinians is not that Jews exist, but that their homes were taken and their family members and friends were butchered like animals.
What they are correctly suggesting is that your thesis is ignoring Israel’s context as a settler-colony authored by Britain to enable what amounted to the mass-expulsion of Holocaust refugees from Europe to run an ethnostate in the Middle East that would act as an instrument for its interests.
The idea of religious conflict being the main element is completely absurd. A truly Jewish state would not forcibly sterilize Ethiopian Jews
I never claimed Britans handling of the relocation of Jewish people was perfect, many things could’ve been handled differently, however the conflict around Jerusalem is much older than you suggest and riddled with religious interests. Religion should not guide modern policy. At most religion should act as, “an opiate of the masses.”
That conflict is a fiction invented by zionists that has only the most tenuous analogy to anything in actual history. The small number of Jewish Palestinians who were used as part of the smokescreen are out of the picture at this point, as Israel is overwhelmingly and aggressively white and has no interest is helping either Jewish or Muslim Arabs. The modern state of Israel is not based on those conflicts, there is no causal continuity, that is just a lie you have been fed. It’s a white colony that is as connected to that inter-Palestinian conflict as the Nazis were connected to the Arabs of Ancient India, it’s just something some racial supremacists conjured up for their fascist mythology.
Incidentally, get Marx’s words out of your mouth if you won’t bother to ever actually read him
Broadly speaking, religion is not diminished by scientific discovery, it is diminished by people’s material needs being met and their prospects looking good. Our friend Marx called that one a long time ago, but modern studies on secularization say the same thing.
But Israel/Palestine is not about religion except as a smokescreen. It is about race, specifically an overwhelmingly white population of settler colonists creating and expanding an ethnostate. The aggrievement of the Palestinians is not that Jews exist, but that their homes were taken and their family members and friends were butchered like animals.
It is most definitely rooted in religious conflict and it’d be naive to think otherwise.
No, its rooted in Western colonialism, and it’s cope to think otherwise.
I’ve never said western colonialism hasn’t had it’s negative impacts, but this is grossly minimalizing historical context.
Other way around.
Care to elaborate? Your non-point responses are not encouraged in thoughtful debate, but youre welcome to do as you please.
You get what you give
Exactly, like yin and yang, we must maintain mindfulness and thoughtful observation of the world around us. It promotes a better world!
What they are correctly suggesting is that your thesis is ignoring Israel’s context as a settler-colony authored by Britain to enable what amounted to the mass-expulsion of Holocaust refugees from Europe to run an ethnostate in the Middle East that would act as an instrument for its interests.
The idea of religious conflict being the main element is completely absurd. A truly Jewish state would not forcibly sterilize Ethiopian Jews
I never claimed Britans handling of the relocation of Jewish people was perfect, many things could’ve been handled differently, however the conflict around Jerusalem is much older than you suggest and riddled with religious interests. Religion should not guide modern policy. At most religion should act as, “an opiate of the masses.”
That conflict is a fiction invented by zionists that has only the most tenuous analogy to anything in actual history. The small number of Jewish Palestinians who were used as part of the smokescreen are out of the picture at this point, as Israel is overwhelmingly and aggressively white and has no interest is helping either Jewish or Muslim Arabs. The modern state of Israel is not based on those conflicts, there is no causal continuity, that is just a lie you have been fed. It’s a white colony that is as connected to that inter-Palestinian conflict as the Nazis were connected to the Arabs of Ancient India, it’s just something some racial supremacists conjured up for their fascist mythology.
Incidentally, get Marx’s words out of your mouth if you won’t bother to ever actually read him