• SovietyWoomy [any]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    Which intelligence groups? Surely ones with actual credibility, right? Not the ones that lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction. Not the ones that lied about covid being a Chinese bioweapon while murdering their own citizens because doing something to protect people from covid would reduce profits. Not the ones that lied about Hamas beheading babies. Any intelligence group that ever spread any of those lies has zero credibility.

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      US, UK, AUS, and Germany for example. Good cooroboration by nations acting independently. Trust but verify holds true.

      Aside: Trumps handling of the Coronavirus was abhorrent. He in no way resonates the beliefs of the majority of Americans. He didn’t win by plurality.

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        7 months ago

        So ones with no credibility as I just demonstrated. Verify that they’ve lied to you in the past, but trust that they won’t this time.

        How was Trump’s handling of covid any different than Biden’s? They both pushed the strategy of doing less testing so we have less cases. Vaccine uptake was abysmal under both, and will only get worse now that vaccines have gone from being free to costing almost $200. The majority of Americans have been gathering without masks at places like restaurants since day 1 because corporate media has constantly said sacrificing people for the economy is good, and no public official has even attempted to do anything to stop that. Trump’s covid response was bipartisan from the start.

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          Actually many American’s chose to wear masks, including myself, based on public health guidance. There’s definitely some inadvisable decisions made by those largely under the Trump umbrella, but they’re an outlier that make for entertaining news segments.

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            7 months ago

            Yeah, the people under the Trump umbrella were pretty bad. Remember when they spat in the face of science and public health to cut the isolation period for covid cases in half because delta airlines complained about losing money? It’s crazy that some people don’t condemn them for that and tragic that there were never any criminal charges for such an incredible abuse of power.

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              7 months ago

              There’s been a lot of condemnation handed out for their actions, not sure why you’d think otherwise?

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                7 months ago

                That was an example of Biden’s covid response. We agree that Trump’s administration should be condemned for its handling of covid. It seems we also agree that Biden’s administration should be condemned for its handling of covid.

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                  7 months ago

                  I read this multiple times over and it’s still not making sense, care to reiterate?

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                    7 months ago

                    You singled out Trump as the one president with a bad covid response. I asked how Biden’s covid response was any different and you still talked about Trump. I presented an example of a terrible covid response from Biden and you agreed it should be condemned.