• themelm@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    Nonsense. Alcohol is a carcinogen, every part of your body it touches has an increased risk of developing cancer. It is directly neurotoxic. It damages the liver and stomache. A bottle of it can kill you. Stopping taking it can kill you.

    Weed taken orally is physically very safe. It can still be habit forming and there are other unwanted side effects but to act like it is physically comaparable to alcohol is silly.

    I say there’s no safe amount of cocaine because it is directly cardiotoxic and has been known to cause heart defects in healthy young men at moderate doses.

    I don’t think ant drug should be illegal I just think people should be aware of the dangers of substances so they can make an informed decision.

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      10 months ago

      You’re very confident, at least. I’ll give you that.

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24118193/

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6793471/

      “We hypothesize that THC neurotoxicity is attributable to activation of the prostanoid synthesis pathway and generation of free radicals by cyclooxygenase.”, would make THC, by definition, a carcinogen.

      I also agree with your last statement completely. My issue is that everyone touts weed like it’s God’s greatest gift to mankind, and it very clearly is not. Stoners are easily identifiable by their inability to think clearly and quickly even when sober for stints. Weed absolutely affects the brain.

      But shouting it’s safety from the heavens is not at all responsible, simply because not enough research has gone into the substance. Even CBD is a neurotoxin, albeit with some observed neuro-protective properties: https://www.advancedsciencenews.com/how-the-brain-protects-itself-from-the-negative-effects-of-cbd/#:~:text=However%2C when CBD was applied,50%25 of the neurons died.

      If those neuro-protective properties failed in other parts of the brain for reasons of age, mice brains being significantly different, medications, or health conditions, the results would be devastating.

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        10 months ago

        Stoners are easily identifiable by their inability to think clearly and quickly even when sober for stints.

        Sounds like just another dumb opinion.

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          10 months ago

          Way to only respond to that.

          And that’s not a dumb opinion, it’s something I’ve noticed from multiple close friends becoming heavy users, and then stopping use because they couldn’t think clearly. If you had read the articles, it’s actually from THC’s neurotoxic effects on the hippocampus.

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        10 months ago

        Ok, good to know. I also try to make sure people understand weed is addictive and has withdrawal symptoms and all that. You were the one who brought weed up originally though. And there is still no doubt that cocaine and alcohol are more dangerous than weed.

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      10 months ago

      Weed can also cause cancer. In fact, it’s worse in terms of that.

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          10 months ago

          I mean smoking anything will cause cancer but there’s no reason to think weed taken orally isn’t one of the most safe chemicals we have.

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            10 months ago

            We can name the chemical to make sure we don’t think about smoking it. For example, I wouldn’t say this for THC. But weed is usually smoked.

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              10 months ago

              Sure, but what chemicals do we have that are safer? Pretty much all of our over the counter drugs will fuck you up long term if taken regularly, and lots of them are acutely dangerous.

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                10 months ago

                I mean basically any serotonergic/classical psychedelic is safer. Caffeine I am fairly sure is safer too. So there are some examples. Admittedly it’s still safer than a lot of other stuff, but it’s also not the most safe especially when smoked.