• joelthelion@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    This kind of reasoning is why we are not making progress. It’s much easier to hold others to high standards when you’ve applied these to yourself first. The same goes for countries: it will be easier to pressure China/India when the West has done their part.

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      11 months ago

      No, we are not making peogress because of your kind of reasoning. We need to make accountable to the bourgeois, the rulling class, even if the whole working class reduced its carbon footprint it would still not make a significant change, they must be replaced and forced to change their ways.

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        11 months ago

        If all the rich were dead, the “normal folks” would still want 2 day shipping, cellphones every 3 years, non local ingredients, and fossil fuel cars.

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      11 months ago

      how do you expect people to apply those standards to themselves before they are applied to the biggest sinners? most people don’t even buy how bad it is

      • joelthelion@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        Doing our part includes reducing our consumption. Where things are produced doesn’t matter all that much for this part of the problem.