• TransplantedSconie
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    10 months ago

    Replace “inflation” with corporate greed to understand the true problem.

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      They’ve lobbied they way into creating a system there they have practically no bounds.

      I mean, they even found a way around human rights and labor laws with prison slave work and even getting laws signed in some states in favor of child labor in the US. And that’s only in the US. In some other countries where manufacturing was moved there are literal slaves and children doing the work.

      Then there’s the whole enshittification where they change the ingredients or the process to use the least material as possible to cut costs, selling food that barely passes for food and products that fall apart and break faster. Or hell, even have services now provided by some stupid AI. Oh and they also slightly reduce the amount per packaging as well thinking we won’t notice.

      Then after they turn around and charge big bucks for that crap. It’s shameful. But they got the governments in their pocket.

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        I mean, they even found a way around human rights and labor laws with prison slave work

        “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” (emphasis added)

        I don’t think they really “found a way” around it insomuch as they explicitly continued to allow it in the text of the 13th Amendment. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature!

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      even that doesnt tell the story well enough, blaming “corporate greed” is too impersonal. corporations are made up of flesh and blood real people making conscious choices that help themselves and hurt others. the greed is human and the humans have names, THEY are collectively AND INDIVIDUALLY responsible.

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        When I want to make money, it isn’t greed. When someone else wants to make money, it is.

        Interesting take

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          When the cost of essential goods is increased beyond the rate of inflation and the company in question subsequently reports all-time record profits, and those profits are going to people who are already in the top 10% of wealth holders whose daily lives aren’t actually impacted by not having that extra wealth, that’s greed harming the lives of everybody else. When someone working a standard 40 hours a week is asking for a cost of living raise because their current wage is below poverty income (which current federal minimum wage current is below that line), it’s basic human need to survive.

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            When the cost of essential goods is increased beyond the rate of inflation

            Inflation is the measure of the cost of goods. You have cause and effect backwards here.

            and those profits are going to people who are already in the top 10% of wealth holders

            Wages are up across the board. Do you resent suppliers, warehouse staff, truck drivers, grocery employees, and distributors for making more money?

            The only significant life changes that happened during the post-covid inflation was wages increasing. Hiring is up, wage pressure is up, union membership is way the fuck up.

            Inflation happens because people have the money to support higher prices. It’s no more greed to raise prices there than it is for you to want to make more money.

            We do have an issue in our society of wealth capture, and that’s a fixable problem we’ve seen steps toward. Wealth capture and inflation aren’t directly related or correlated, however.

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              Inflation is the measure of the cost of goods. You have cause and effect backwards here.

              Inflation is the devaluation of currency due to increased supply of it. And you’re ignoring that price increases outpaced inflation and resulted in record profits. Companies used rising inflation as a cover to simply increase profits.

              Wages are up across the board. Do you resent suppliers, warehouse staff, truck drivers, grocery employees, and distributors for making more money?

              You may be forgetting all the unionization and strikes that helped with those increases. And you can’t refute that there are still people making federal minimum wage, or that it is a poverty wage.

              The only significant life changes that happened during the post-covid inflation was wages increasing.

              If you’re asserting that companies have not been raising prices beyond inflationary rate I can only conclude you’re willfully ignorant on this topic or commenting in bad faith.

              https://www.businessinsider.com/companies-pocket-largest-profits-in-70-years-amid-inflation-complaints-2021-12

              https://thehill.com/business/3756457-corporate-profits-hit-record-high-in-third-quarter-amid-40-year-high-inflation/

              (paywall on this one) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-25/us-corporate-profits-soar-taking-margins-to-widest-since-1950

              Inflation happens because people have the money to support higher prices. It’s no more greed to raise prices there than it is for you to want to make more money.

              Inflation happens because the government puts more money into circulation. Raising prices at a rate consistent with inflation is not wealth-hoarding greed. Raising prices well beyond inflation just because you can blame it on inflation and raking in the profits is.

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                Inflation is the devaluation of currency due to increased supply of it

                This is simply not correct. Increased supply of currency relative to the actual amount of goods and services in an economy is probably the most prominent cause of inflation, but it’s not the only cause. Inflation itself is the actual generalized rise in prices, which can be caused by a variety of factors. Find a basic econ textbook, or just read the Wikipedia article on inflation.

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                Inflation happens because the government puts more money into circulation.

                No. The government is constantly putting more.money into circulation without inflationary effects. We literally had suboptimal inflation for almost a decade.

                Inflation is a measurement of price increases over time. Inflation happened this time due to COVID causing pent up demand, a glut of credit and cash on hand, and supply chain issues across the board.

                Companies making more profits is hardly surprising given that people wanted to go buy a ton of shit because they finally could.

                If you’re asserting that companies have not been raising prices beyond inflationary rate

                Again this is literally impossible because whatever they raise prices to is where we derive the inflation rate from

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                  Nobody is surprised about it companies wanting more money. We’re just angry about it (the whole dark cloud thing the article is about). Nobody is out here complaining that a Lamborghini costs $20k more. It’s about housing and groceries. The record profits aren’t from introducing a new kind of egg or lowering the cost of production and distribution. The profits are from raising the prices on the same goods because people got stimulus money

                  Yes, you have the technical economist definition of inflation correct. But, my dude, people are out here saying “our basic necessities like staple groceries are still more expensive even though inflation has gone down and we see that the companies producing those goods have reported their highest profits in 70 years” and you’re telling them “no, no, they’re not being greedy, it’s your fault for being willing to spend so much money on basic survival goods and that’s causing inflation”. There was no negotiating the cost of eggs and milk at the grocery store. The price was just set higher and consumers had to either pay it or starve.

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                    Housing costs arent even companies being greedy, but homeowners.

                    I honestly think people don’t even know what they’re mad at they’re just mad. This is why the real problems struggle to get fixed.

                    I’m not being pedantic here - if you don’t understand the problem, you’re part of the problem, by definition. Fixing housing requires changing local zoning laws and depowering current homeowners from the ability to pull the ladder up after them to protect their investment. They will never back that en masse on their own, because they benefit.

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      True. And government inflation does directly put money into banks, leading to more corporate profits