Oh I’d absolutely prefer somebody going all in something like that to the exasperating hack. My point is that if your goal is to avoid getting “owned” or whatever you want to call it, the only way to do that is to never actually enjoy something. I guess I’m trying to get across that I think a lot of the cringe discourse is less about what people think is embarrassing and more about avoiding ever feeling embarrassed, which is simply not a realistic thing unless you make yourself miserable.