I’m told that the instant they realize you speak English most Germans will switch and refuse to ever speak German to you again, so it might turn out not to be an issue.
I know a Mexican dude who constantly speaks like “it’s over got runmogged by a mongolian cardio lanklet” because he learned English online
The mexican dude is expressing despair at a mongolian twink running circles around him.
Thank you.
god help him
He just needs to find a little cache of Germans without annoying opinions
Yeah, this country is going fash soon lol, good luck.
There’s a lovely German-speaking community in Kitchener, Ontario. You’ll get some brainworms, but they’re mostly the kind of ones you’d hear from your sweet lib grandma or the like, because it’s mostly a community of little old grandparents who listen to polka and like nice mustards. There are several other German-speaking communities in the US but I can’t speak to them.
Alternatively, pivot to learning Yiddish and speaking to the 5 people online who can speak it.
Kitchener also has a great Oktoberfest, lots of fun.
It really does! I visited it most years with my grandparents as a kiddo!
I always “suspiciously” timed visiting my in-laws during oktoberfest when they still lived in the area. We stook out like a sore thumb, but it was always a great time.
How easy do you figure yiddish would be to learn if you already speak german?
i think germans can understand yiddish if they try a bit. a bunch of new words, some of the grammar’s different. basically yet another german dialect. you’d have to learn the hebrew letters to read it though.
like, two people speaking fluent yiddish next to you might stump you if you’ve never heard it before, but if you meet a yiddish speaker and you both want to communicate, it’s bound to work (and get progressively better very fast). italians and spanish speakers can do the same, more or less.
kinda wanna learn yiddish now. for like the street cred. Imagine being able to back up calling somebody a putz with knowing yiddish
God imagine coming from the outside, thinking you’ll find like a nice leftist group to practice with and then it turns out they’re antideutsche. Horror movie material
The real question is if it’s to avoid hearing how bad our German is because they think it’s worth preserving or because they too hate the language.
We all absolutely hate the language too. The region I’m from has the cringey official slogan “Wir können alles, außer Hochdeutsch.” (“We can do everything, except speak Standard German.”)
I don’t think that’s hating the german language, just the snooty prussian version of it, compared to our salt of the earth mountain german
Eh, from my own experience as someone who moved here 9 years ago with way less language skills than today - that only really applies if your German is very basic or if you start using English first.
However, I do not live in a big city like Berlin, Frankfurt, München. There it might be different from the overabundance of libs and students.
yes, germans hate being german, subconsciously (or have internalized liberal cosmopolitanism as the core of New Germanness - don’t forget to be racist against Palestinians, who are the new Nazis)
My mom’s hometown in Germany has 0 German flags (couldn’t find a single one, and I think that’s normal), meanwhile there were like 20 Ukrainian flags lmfao
Only time I ever liked Merkel is when I saw that video of her ripping the little German flag from her colleague’s hand and shook her head to scold him. That was great.
don’t wanna continue talking about this. This was mostly tongue-in-cheek
no they love it, it’s just being cosmopolitan well educated people is part of it so they really like to speak english. also most germans are turboboomers regardless of age who would never voluntarily enter english spaces because of it and therefore jump at any opportunity that presents itself to speak it
They hate englishers butchering their language
I have definitely been to parts of Germany where no English was spoken
Not even that far out of the city
There’s an age split there but the true split, especially for older generations, is much more along the old GDR border and also the occupation zones. I live in the former american occupation zone and being at least fluent enough in english to entertain a conversation with a stranger in a bar in a sort of “also using your hand and feet” type way is fairly common. Same with the british sector.
It’s an oddly understudied field I believe. But like, wherever the americans were, you can really feel their influence. Like straight up “a lot of muscle cars or US trucks on the road” type shit, or certain fast food options you wouldn’t otherwise find. And in the british sector, they have left an enduring cultural memory of “getting hopelessly fucked up by midnight” despite things not closing at midnight here
It’s an oddly understudied field I believe
Virology is probably the appropriate field of study here.
Like straight up “a lot of muscle cars or US trucks on the road” type shit
It’s the military bases. The closer you get to military bases, like say the one in Ansbach, the more American vehicles you’ll see. Usually the fuckhuge pickup trucks.
I think my complete disinterest in learning Spanish has to do with my growing up in Florida. Most of the Spanish speakers here are fucking Cuban Gusanos who I’d rather not speak with in the first place.
Also I can’t roll my Rs
people with rhotacism exist in rolled-r language societies and they’re not shunned or ridiculed, nobody cares after middle school. you dont need to roll your Rs, because for whatever reason, everyone can recognise an R sound even though all the R sounds are super different. weird shit, that.
I’m tongue-tied so I just use guttural R, its close enough.
abolish verb conjugation
Chinese doesn’t conjugate verbs
I’ll take conjugations over tones anyday.
Some of us are nice
💘
studied german for a year gave up because my brain couldnt handle the change in words depending on if the sun was high, if the moon was low, if it was warm and dry or warm and humid and so on and so on.
now finnish, that’s an easy language to learn
lmao fuck that don’t learn that garbage unless you want to speak quenya with the right pronounciationbut for real though, respect to your buddy
Hmm haven’t heard Finnish mentioned in that regard ✍️
Then again drunk people who hate Russians sound boring
Tolkien loved the language enough to learn it so he could read Kalevala(national epic) in finnish
anyway yes, hating russians is our entire national identity even though Soviet Russia gave us independence, but that goes against the story, you see.
hating russians is our entire national identity even though Soviet Russia gave us independence
Literally “Poland 2: Colder than Suwałki”
I think getting drunk alone in underwear and adopting large scale vodka seltzer production early is iconic in a way
it only has like 18 cases, it’s fine…
just one more case bro, just one more.
Personally the only German I need to know is flomark speak.
“Vie viel?” and numbers to possibly haggle. Oh and Danke with Auf Viedersehen.
The rest is a waste of time as a lot of Germans already know English.
Flohmarkt*
they will not care at the flohmarkt, I think that’s kind of his point
Haha I’m being read beforehand hahaha! :sicko-yes:
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Ich spreche ein klein wenig Deutsch ^^
many such cases!
Learning a second language gives you a GREAT advantage towards learning a third one, which will quickly surpass your second one if you actually enjoy talking in that language.
