Those seem incompatible to me.

(UBI means Universal Basic Income, giving everyone a basic income, for free)

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    Eh. Some yes, some no.

    I think that a better solution would be creating jobs that pay a living wage, much like we did in the Great Depression. Something that would give your life some kind of external structure. I find, for myself, that when I have zero time pressures from work, that it’s easy to do nothing at all, and I’ve found that most people are the same.

    EDIT: SHould add - jobs should be scaled to capabilities, rather than being one-size-fits-all.

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      I think that part of the reason why is that work has (many of) us so beat down anyway. I imagine there’s probably a certain amount of time where that tendency will dissipate and you’ll want to be productive again.

      Fuck the 40 hour work week.

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        I’ve seen it in most people once they have no external pressures to do anything. Not everyone. But def. most people I’ve known that weren’t loaded with money and could afford to travel, etc. without needing to work.

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      Politicians everywhere have been “creating jobs” all the time. That’s just a myth. You can’t just create jobs indefinitely and it doesn’t solve societies problems. What kind of jobs do you have in mind?

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        Jobs that there’s typically not the political will to do otherwise: public works, things that are a net public good, but aren’t profitable (or are insufficiently profitable to entire a private company to make the investment). During the Great Depression the gov’t created tens of thousands of jobs, so it’s def. not a myth. You could easily do things like de-automate jobs, or adequately staff federal agencies, use labor to build off-shore wind farms that are currently not profitable enough for private industry to build, so on and so forth. (Fed. agencies, pretty near across the board–aside from the military–have had funding and staffing cut for decades, to the point where e.g. the IRS doesn’t have enough people to go after anything more than a tine percentage of people that cheat on tax or commit tax fraud.)

        IIRC, the Appalachian Trail was originally cleared during the Great Depression, and has since been maintained by volunteers. Shit, you could (and should) pay people to do it, rather than expecting them to give labor simply because they believe that the AT is a public good (which I would agree it is).

        The typical ‘job creation’ is more about giving private companies tax incentives to enter an area, rather than the gov’t being them employer.