• elscallr@kbin.social
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    “punish labor” 😂

    They’ll find new jobs. Companies have no loyalty to employees and employees have no loyalty to companies. Nobody is in it for love. They got paychecks, now they’ll find someone else to give them paychecks. It’s transactional.

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      Do you think that being laid off is a good thing?

      The employees are suffering the negative consequences of the leadership’s piss-poor decisionmaking, that was their point. Leadership hasn’t seen any turnover or resignations, to my knowledge.

      Is it so wrong in your mind to expect a little personal responsibility? Or do you find it just that leadership can fuck up consequence-free and shitcan others for their failures?

      If that’s how you’d run your company, I’d run the other way as both a worker and a consumer.

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        I’ve been laid off. It sucks, but you find a new job, and in the tech world that usually comes with a pay bump.

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          I’m not saying it’s murder, or some other event people don’t recover from. We both agree it’s a bad thing. And we both agree it’s a bad thing happening to the wrong people, based on who fucked up, right?

          That’s all the person you initially replied to is saying. It’s an injustice, even though it’s not a crime. It’s a minor form of class warfare, where the wealthy fuck up and leave the working class holding the bag.

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            Well that’s the thing, I don’t really consider it injustice. I consider it as something that sucks, but things that suck happen. It’s just kind of part of life. You get past it. I guess that’s my view.

            Like a farmer experiencing a drought. That’s not injustice, it just sucks.

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              Layoffs aren’t the laws of physics, my guy. This isn’t a bird randomly shitting on your hand, this is a decision made by people to fire exclusively people who were not at fault for the reasons they needed to do layoffs to begin with.

              It’s a choice, that’s why it’s injustice.

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                If there’s no money and no work to be done, the natural outcome are layoffs. What alternative is there? That the company continues to pay all the staff from the management’s pockets? That’s not exactly a great scenario for the workers either, since there’s no prospect for growth, and everyone will still be out of a job once the company inevitably fails. If you see management making bad decisions, start searching, don’t wait for the layoffs.

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                It’s exactly that. There’s no one person, no group of people, that can control a market. It’s a force, an abstract concept at this point. Any thoughts that it can be controlled is hubris or naivety.

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                    What’s your ideal situation? They create make work jobs? Give the development and production teams some brooms and fire the custodial staff instead? Their job is done. Time to find new ones.