I guess we’ve arrived at the part where a bunch of low-information lemmings come to say that Biden is bad for striking Houti terrorists who have been attacking and hijacking international shipping lanes, after being warned multiple times over the last weeks to stop. Boo fucking hoo.
Pro tip: when the US military gives you a “final warning” to knock off your shit, maybe listen.
The country supplying arms for genocide is bombing the only country that is trying to put an end to it. Yemen is imposing sanctions on Israel because it is committing genocide. Israel should be sanctioned by the entire world. The united states imposes debilitating deadly sanctions on countries for decades simply because they are not under its boot. The United States is evil and no amount of propaganda is going to change that.
The terrorist Houthis in Yemen, like Hamas, are backed by Iran–all three of which have individually called for the genocide and annihilation of Israel.
Last week America gave the Houthis one final warning (after multiple others) to knock off their piracy and hijacking of international trade routes.
Instead of widely heeding that warning, they made the very stupid decision to call America’s bluff. As the saying goes “fuck around, find out.”
By the way, Iran is also an authoritarian Islamic theocracy in which women are subjugated, homosexuality is subject to persecution, and freedom of expression is nonexistent. They represent the model of a Muslim State under Sharia religious law, back Islamic terrorist groups in various parts of the world, are creating instability in the region (like the Oct 7 attacks and these trade route hijackings), and are generally not your friend no matter how much koolaid you drink or what medal you pick up in the mental gymnastics Olympics.
Not even hamas supports mass killings of Israelis. Hamas’s position is military resistance until Palestine is liberated. Subjugating people and standing in the way of their liberation puts you at danger of violence. The only one responsible for that is you. If Israelis chose to accept Palestinians as equals, payed reparations, and became Palestinian citizens, no one would have a problem with them. Israel of course is not willing to accept the Palestinians it ethnically cleansed and those it occupies because it is a fascist ethno state.
Yemen, not “the houthis” is the only country in the world brave enough to stand up and fight against genocide in the face of the US. Iran backing the resistance is a point in it’s favor, not against it or the resistance. Iran is supporting antimperialism and it should be commended for doing so.
Good job on ticking every box on the islamophobic white supremacist demonization checklist. You were propagandized well.
The Houthis are attacking random ships, not Israeli ships. They were warned to cease attacking civilian ships on one of the largest trading routes in the world, and they didn’t. They fucked around and now they’re finding out.
First of all they’re not attacking ships. They are first warning them to reroute and not dock at Israel. When these ships refuse these orders they are boarding the ships and rerouting then without injuring anyone. Their operations are entirely reasonable.
They have fired on civilian vessels without provocation, attempted to violently board other vessels and have attacked ships that were not going to Israel. They are treating any ship as a target (a war crime, by the way).
If enforcing a total blockade in Bab Al mandeb will harm israeli and world capitalist economy enough to pressure them into ending the genocide, then it is the duty of all who are able to enforce it. As long as the genocide is being carried out Bab Al mandeb will be restricted. Yemen is the only country courageous and moral enough to put pressure where it counts to end the genocide. While the genocidal United States cynically uses “international law” to ensure its continuation. It’s the duty of all actors to do everything in their ability to stop genocide.
“Moral enough”, let’s not pretend they’re not thirsting for their own genocide, just read their catchphrase “God Is the Greatest, Death to America, Death to Israel, A Curse Upon the Jews, Victory to Islam”".
Because they associate the Zionist state with Judaism, a conflation that Israel itself works tirelessly to uphold. Zionism and israel must be extracted from Judaism like the cancer that they are so that Jewish people can return to being an integral part of Arab societies.
Blockades are usually enforced by shooting at violating ships. And “shooting at more civilians isn’t the way to do it” then what is? Because there’s no world where “Just shut up and watch genocide happen” is the right answer.
Then what is the right answer? Because as long as they’re not directly shooting and killing people they’re well within their rights to do anything to stop the genocide of Gaza.
Not sure about rights, because they are shooting out of their territorial waters. But the “rights”, or perhaps “powers” of any nation only go as far as they can enforce them.
So right now Yemen is indeed expressing itself, but they are finding out they don’t really have the power?
Ultimately, protest is valid and what’s happening in Gaza is a genocide. But killing (or endangering) third parties who are just working a shift is always wrong.
They’re only blockading ships that are going to dock in Israel, are owned by Israelis or are flying the Israeli flag. It’s more targeted than just “we’re shooting rockets at any ship that passes”.
The Yemeni armed forces did not shoot or iniure anyone in their operations. The United States has killed 10 in its first operation and who knows how many it has killed in it’s recent bombing of civilian areas in Yemen.
Since they became its government lmfao. Since they were fighting against imperialist encroachment and control over their country. The American backed puppet government operating out of the Ritz Carlton in Riyadh certainly isn’t the recognized government of Yemen. It is not just Ansarallah in the Yemeni government, it’s multiple parties that were not previously allies now ruling as a unified central government. The alternative government is literally just the Saudi military. It has absolutely no popular support and it controls a steadily dimishing portion of the country.
No they aren’t. If they were only attacking Israel bound ships then you could make that argument. But they’ve de facto declared war on 90 percent of the planet.
Yemen is perfectly within the provisions of international law in blocking Israeli boats from transiting. The only violation of international law is if you claim that Ansar Allah is not the rightful and legitimate government of Yemen.
I can only imagine being so brainwashed to believe that the Houthis harassing, threatening and attacking one of the biggest international trade routes on Earth, while indiscriminately targeting ships from various countries and ignoring multiple warnings from the UN, Britain and the US, is in any way legitimate.
They attacked civilian ships, they were warned not to, they didn’t stop attacking civilian ships, and now they’ve been retaliated against as promised. Let’s see if they’re smart enough to finally stop fucking with international civilian trade ships.
The US doesn’t have a blockade on Cuba. They have an embargo which only affects US ships and businesses. Basically a ban on Americans conducting business with Cuba.
When the US did institute a blockade it was to prevent Russia placing nuclear weapons there. And it was tightly enforced around the island. Not on any ship heading into the Caribbean.
By… Enforcing a blockade of companies that trade with Israel?
Jeez, you’re really starting to sound like an antisemite with your idiotic “Jews control the world” narrative. Are you going to pull out an octopus emoji next?
I never said anything like that. The Houthis have attacked ships that are entirely irrelevant to the Israelis. That’s why they’ve declared war on the world. I’ve been pretty clear about that. So we’re done here since you want to try and insert stupid stuff.
Globalization sort of means that a lot of ships and shipping companies are relevant to the Israelis.
Edit: if you name a ship that was struck with AIS off… There’s a reason it’s a violation of international law to turn off AIS. People might think you’re trying to avoid sanctions, or something.
If the US Navy wasn’t swatting missiles and drones, hundreds of sailors would be at the bottom of the sea by now.
Don’t forget environmental damage from spilled fuel and actual oil tankers that would be damaged. You know, like the Russian tanker they accidentally fired on today even though it had even less to do with them than anyone else in the sea.
Launching missiles at civilian ships is not a “protest”.
can we worry about the environmental damage in palestine too?
oh the poor crewmembers trying to ignore the known agressive blockade, maybe someone in yemen can go to their rescue oh whoops no they will be leveled by the millions lol.
The crew members are there for a wage, and the ships themselves mostly have nothing to do with Israel.
A huge portion of global trade runs through the area, and it’s not just “trinkets from China” as some like to say. It’s grain, fuel, steel, all of the things that keep the world running in a globalized economy.
You can’t blockade the entire world and not expect retaliation. If anything, I’m surprised it took this long.
As ugly as it sounds? Yes. There are nearly 8 billion humans on a planet with finite resources, globally distributed. The resources, unfortunately, are more valuable than any specific subset of humans at this point.
Without trade, billions would die. And they won’t be Westerners, they’ll be people who live in places where population exceeds carrying capacity. Namely, the ME and Asia.
Yemen in particular is highly dependent on foreign aid. By blocking trade the Houthis are not looking out for the people of their country any more than Hamas is looking out for the people of Palestine. In fact they are the reason Yemen is starving. I’m not sure why so many people on Lemmy are professing support for an illegitimate, theocratic revolutionary force.
“Arab countries and all Islamic countries will not be safe from Jews except through their eradication and the elimination of their entity.” - Al-Houthi
Yes, the Houthi are real opponents of genocide.
If the Houthis really feel like they have a dog in the fight, they could declare war on Israel and deploy and fight rather than harassing non-combatants. They’re nothing but terrorists, not combatants - and if the world agrees on one thing it’s that we do not negotiate with terrorists.
Boo hoo, clearly you didn’t read about how shipping is the lifeblood of the world, and it’s not about some “stuff” not arriving. It’s about not setting a precedent that anyone with a rocket launcher is allowed to take potshots at civilian vessels.
Without nuts and bolts and cultivator shovels and sickle knife sections Canada won’t have grain to export to the rest of the world. Oh no, we don’t make any of those ourselves? The world is extremely co-dependent now, which is part of the reason that we don’t have any major wars going on.
You know who can stop this right now? Hamas can stop this right now. They are clearly not going to “win”. Their prolonged actions are only causing suffering to their own people. They could do the honourable thing and SURRENDER which would end the war right now. But they aren’t going to do that, because they aren’t fighting for benefit of the Gazan people. They’re fighting because they hate the Jews.
Israel walked away from Gaza many years ago, left it entirely under its own governance. If its people had put the past aside and chosen a path that led to alliances and peaceful cooperation with the world, it could be a bustling trade hub and a beautiful little vacation destination on the shores of the Mediterranean.
Instead they chose their hatred of the Jews and spent decades launching rockets into Israel.
The same applies to the Houthis. Yemen could be a prosperous nation like its neighbours. Instead it’s a war-torn dump in abject poverty. Ever wonder why we sell weapons to our questionable “ally” of Saudi Arabia to fight them? Because for all that SA is terrible, the Houthis are worse.
Do you think their Iranian backers will tell them to back down once they learn that they have full control over a major shipping lane, and the ability to blackmail the world with it? That’s the true path that leads to WW3.
What if some of those merchant sailors (who are often so poor they can’t even afford to leave port) are Palestinians? Is it okay to kill those Palestinians?
of course not. but its very disingenious to start caring about palestinians when trade routes are disrupted but not when millions of them are getting killed or displaced.
I guess we’ve arrived at the part where a bunch of low-information lemmings come to say that Biden is bad for striking Houti terrorists who have been attacking and hijacking international shipping lanes, after being warned multiple times over the last weeks to stop. Boo fucking hoo.
Pro tip: when the US military gives you a “final warning” to knock off your shit, maybe listen.
Only the US is allowed to enforce sanctions or institute a blockade. Silly Yemen.
A blockade is an act of war. If you’re going to commit an act of war. Don’t be surprised when there’s a response.
@Cuba
That’s an embargo. Non US businesses and ships are free to interact with Cuba. The US doesn’t stop other countries from trading with Cuba.
Do you think America enforces sanctions against Russia by attacking their civilians?
Follow up, do you have a clue how anything in the world actually works?
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Maybe some day you’ll graduate middle school and come to a deeper understanding of the world around you.
But I doubt it
Especially considering why the US navy was even created.
The country supplying arms for genocide is bombing the only country that is trying to put an end to it. Yemen is imposing sanctions on Israel because it is committing genocide. Israel should be sanctioned by the entire world. The united states imposes debilitating deadly sanctions on countries for decades simply because they are not under its boot. The United States is evil and no amount of propaganda is going to change that.
The terrorist Houthis in Yemen, like Hamas, are backed by Iran–all three of which have individually called for the genocide and annihilation of Israel.
Last week America gave the Houthis one final warning (after multiple others) to knock off their piracy and hijacking of international trade routes.
Instead of widely heeding that warning, they made the very stupid decision to call America’s bluff. As the saying goes “fuck around, find out.”
By the way, Iran is also an authoritarian Islamic theocracy in which women are subjugated, homosexuality is subject to persecution, and freedom of expression is nonexistent. They represent the model of a Muslim State under Sharia religious law, back Islamic terrorist groups in various parts of the world, are creating instability in the region (like the Oct 7 attacks and these trade route hijackings), and are generally not your friend no matter how much koolaid you drink or what medal you pick up in the mental gymnastics Olympics.
You left off Iran supporting Russia in their war against Ukraine and all the war crimes that involves.
I guess Iran is just really committed to ending genocide then, huh?
Well, if the shoe fits…
And they’re trying to stop a genocide in progress. Your point?
Nope. They’re just mad it’s not them wiping out the Jews.
Not even hamas supports mass killings of Israelis. Hamas’s position is military resistance until Palestine is liberated. Subjugating people and standing in the way of their liberation puts you at danger of violence. The only one responsible for that is you. If Israelis chose to accept Palestinians as equals, payed reparations, and became Palestinian citizens, no one would have a problem with them. Israel of course is not willing to accept the Palestinians it ethnically cleansed and those it occupies because it is a fascist ethno state.
Yemen, not “the houthis” is the only country in the world brave enough to stand up and fight against genocide in the face of the US. Iran backing the resistance is a point in it’s favor, not against it or the resistance. Iran is supporting antimperialism and it should be commended for doing so.
Good job on ticking every box on the islamophobic white supremacist demonization checklist. You were propagandized well.
Can’t tell if you’re trying to convince him or yourself.
The Houthis are attacking random ships, not Israeli ships. They were warned to cease attacking civilian ships on one of the largest trading routes in the world, and they didn’t. They fucked around and now they’re finding out.
First of all they’re not attacking ships. They are first warning them to reroute and not dock at Israel. When these ships refuse these orders they are boarding the ships and rerouting then without injuring anyone. Their operations are entirely reasonable.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_involvement_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war
They have fired on civilian vessels without provocation, attempted to violently board other vessels and have attacked ships that were not going to Israel. They are treating any ship as a target (a war crime, by the way).
Ansarallah has been very clear on the degree of association with Israel they consider sufficient for enforcement of the blockade.
Again, COSCO is literally sailing ships through the Suez Canal.
When someone says one thing and does another…
If enforcing a total blockade in Bab Al mandeb will harm israeli and world capitalist economy enough to pressure them into ending the genocide, then it is the duty of all who are able to enforce it. As long as the genocide is being carried out Bab Al mandeb will be restricted. Yemen is the only country courageous and moral enough to put pressure where it counts to end the genocide. While the genocidal United States cynically uses “international law” to ensure its continuation. It’s the duty of all actors to do everything in their ability to stop genocide.
There is nothing moral about attacking random civilians.
“Moral enough”, let’s not pretend they’re not thirsting for their own genocide, just read their catchphrase “God Is the Greatest, Death to America, Death to Israel, A Curse Upon the Jews, Victory to Islam”".
Two wrongs does not make a right.
Because they associate the Zionist state with Judaism, a conflation that Israel itself works tirelessly to uphold. Zionism and israel must be extracted from Judaism like the cancer that they are so that Jewish people can return to being an integral part of Arab societies.
That doesn’t even pass the sniff test. That route is to the entire Mediterranean, from all points west of there.
Shooting at more civilians is not the way to do it.
Please provide a source for that claim that they are shooting civilians?
The crew on the container ships??? The ones they are launching missiles at
Look at the front page of literally any newspaper. Fuck off with unserious requests for sources.
Blockades are usually enforced by shooting at violating ships. And “shooting at more civilians isn’t the way to do it” then what is? Because there’s no world where “Just shut up and watch genocide happen” is the right answer.
What? Shooting civilians is never the answer. Did you really just advocate for that???
2 wrongs don’t make a right.
Then what is the right answer? Because as long as they’re not directly shooting and killing people they’re well within their rights to do anything to stop the genocide of Gaza.
Not sure about rights, because they are shooting out of their territorial waters. But the “rights”, or perhaps “powers” of any nation only go as far as they can enforce them.
So right now Yemen is indeed expressing itself, but they are finding out they don’t really have the power?
Ultimately, protest is valid and what’s happening in Gaza is a genocide. But killing (or endangering) third parties who are just working a shift is always wrong.
AFAIK they didn’t kill anyone. They’re also pretty clear about their condition for allowing ships to pass.
Shooting violators is just how you enforce a blockade; it’s what the British did against the Germans.
And that’s a good thing, but if you attack ships with people on them, you’ve endangered them. Via some bad luck they could have killed people.
Also the waters are shared and highly contested, so the blockade isn’t clean.
And as I said ultimately you can only have a blockade if you can enforce it. Day by day it is becoming clear they cannot.
A blockade is an act of war. A blockade of the suez canal is an act of war against the 90% of the planet.
They’re only blockading ships that are going to dock in Israel, are owned by Israelis or are flying the Israeli flag. It’s more targeted than just “we’re shooting rockets at any ship that passes”.
Two seconds on Google. Just two seconds. Stop lying.
Yeah I learned this after posting my comment. What the hell are the Houthis doing?
I don’t know man. But it’s not helping anyone’s cause.
The Yemeni armed forces did not shoot or iniure anyone in their operations. The United States has killed 10 in its first operation and who knows how many it has killed in it’s recent bombing of civilian areas in Yemen.
Not for lack of trying. I said “shot at”
Wrong. They could have hurt people when they boarded ships but they did not. In fact they were entirely friendly and courteous towards the crew.
And the launched weapons?
Are you really claiming the houthis have not launched any missiles or drones?
When do you clock out?
Here’s a fresh example: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/houthis-mistakenly-target-tanker-carrying-russian-oil-ambrey-report-2024-01-12/
Are you saying that didn’t happen? It’s a psyop or something?
Since when are the Houthis the recognized government of Yemen?
Since they became its government lmfao. Since they were fighting against imperialist encroachment and control over their country. The American backed puppet government operating out of the Ritz Carlton in Riyadh certainly isn’t the recognized government of Yemen. It is not just Ansarallah in the Yemeni government, it’s multiple parties that were not previously allies now ruling as a unified central government. The alternative government is literally just the Saudi military. It has absolutely no popular support and it controls a steadily dimishing portion of the country.
Name the country that recognizes the Houthis’ authority in Yemen. Iran?
No they aren’t. If they were only attacking Israel bound ships then you could make that argument. But they’ve de facto declared war on 90 percent of the planet.
You should probably get some perspective before you post bullshit like this.
Yemen is perfectly within the provisions of international law in blocking Israeli boats from transiting. The only violation of international law is if you claim that Ansar Allah is not the rightful and legitimate government of Yemen.
I can only imagine being so brainwashed to believe that the Houthis harassing, threatening and attacking one of the biggest international trade routes on Earth, while indiscriminately targeting ships from various countries and ignoring multiple warnings from the UN, Britain and the US, is in any way legitimate.
They attacked civilian ships, they were warned not to, they didn’t stop attacking civilian ships, and now they’ve been retaliated against as promised. Let’s see if they’re smart enough to finally stop fucking with international civilian trade ships.
But when americans use naval ships to stop civilian ships from getting to Cuba is that them threatening and attacking civilians?
So everyone needs to follow Americas orders without question?
Thats how a blockade works, yes.
The US doesn’t have a blockade on Cuba. They have an embargo which only affects US ships and businesses. Basically a ban on Americans conducting business with Cuba.
When the US did institute a blockade it was to prevent Russia placing nuclear weapons there. And it was tightly enforced around the island. Not on any ship heading into the Caribbean.
Thanks for this response, I didn’t have the mental capacity to frame it this well.
Transiting international water? Lmao no.
Enforcing a blockade while at war? Lmao yes.
So you admit the Houthis have declared war on the entire world.
By… Enforcing a blockade of companies that trade with Israel?
Jeez, you’re really starting to sound like an antisemite with your idiotic “Jews control the world” narrative. Are you going to pull out an octopus emoji next?
I never said anything like that. The Houthis have attacked ships that are entirely irrelevant to the Israelis. That’s why they’ve declared war on the world. I’ve been pretty clear about that. So we’re done here since you want to try and insert stupid stuff.
Name one.
Globalization sort of means that a lot of ships and shipping companies are relevant to the Israelis.
Edit: if you name a ship that was struck with AIS off… There’s a reason it’s a violation of international law to turn off AIS. People might think you’re trying to avoid sanctions, or something.
Al Jasrah.
And no. You don’t get to engage in piracy and then demand your victims let you know where they are.
so US can fund genocide, but no one can protest it, got it.
are trade routes more important than actual human lives?
Why not ask the human lives on the trade vessels?
If the US Navy wasn’t swatting missiles and drones, hundreds of sailors would be at the bottom of the sea by now.
Don’t forget environmental damage from spilled fuel and actual oil tankers that would be damaged. You know, like the Russian tanker they accidentally fired on today even though it had even less to do with them than anyone else in the sea.
Launching missiles at civilian ships is not a “protest”.
can we worry about the environmental damage in palestine too?
oh the poor crewmembers trying to ignore the known agressive blockade, maybe someone in yemen can go to their rescue oh whoops no they will be leveled by the millions lol.
The crew members are there for a wage, and the ships themselves mostly have nothing to do with Israel.
A huge portion of global trade runs through the area, and it’s not just “trinkets from China” as some like to say. It’s grain, fuel, steel, all of the things that keep the world running in a globalized economy.
You can’t blockade the entire world and not expect retaliation. If anything, I’m surprised it took this long.
well you cant cause a literal fucking genocide and expect there not to be retaliation. is trade more valuable than humans?
you know what would solve this immediatly without more deaths? stop the genocide.
As ugly as it sounds? Yes. There are nearly 8 billion humans on a planet with finite resources, globally distributed. The resources, unfortunately, are more valuable than any specific subset of humans at this point.
Without trade, billions would die. And they won’t be Westerners, they’ll be people who live in places where population exceeds carrying capacity. Namely, the ME and Asia.
Yemen in particular is highly dependent on foreign aid. By blocking trade the Houthis are not looking out for the people of their country any more than Hamas is looking out for the people of Palestine. In fact they are the reason Yemen is starving. I’m not sure why so many people on Lemmy are professing support for an illegitimate, theocratic revolutionary force.
“Arab countries and all Islamic countries will not be safe from Jews except through their eradication and the elimination of their entity.” - Al-Houthi
Yes, the Houthi are real opponents of genocide.
If the Houthis really feel like they have a dog in the fight, they could declare war on Israel and deploy and fight rather than harassing non-combatants. They’re nothing but terrorists, not combatants - and if the world agrees on one thing it’s that we do not negotiate with terrorists.
boohoo my stuff is taking longer to arrive.
thats a whole bunch of text to justify stopping a blockade but not stopping a genocide. literal genocide.
millions dying right now for no reason. stop the genocide and the blockade will stop, so fucking simple.
in your analysis you forgot the part where the US is funding it, and caused this whole mess in the first place.
but if youd rather have world war 3 over this wtf can i do.
Boo hoo, clearly you didn’t read about how shipping is the lifeblood of the world, and it’s not about some “stuff” not arriving. It’s about not setting a precedent that anyone with a rocket launcher is allowed to take potshots at civilian vessels.
Without nuts and bolts and cultivator shovels and sickle knife sections Canada won’t have grain to export to the rest of the world. Oh no, we don’t make any of those ourselves? The world is extremely co-dependent now, which is part of the reason that we don’t have any major wars going on.
You know who can stop this right now? Hamas can stop this right now. They are clearly not going to “win”. Their prolonged actions are only causing suffering to their own people. They could do the honourable thing and SURRENDER which would end the war right now. But they aren’t going to do that, because they aren’t fighting for benefit of the Gazan people. They’re fighting because they hate the Jews.
Israel walked away from Gaza many years ago, left it entirely under its own governance. If its people had put the past aside and chosen a path that led to alliances and peaceful cooperation with the world, it could be a bustling trade hub and a beautiful little vacation destination on the shores of the Mediterranean.
Instead they chose their hatred of the Jews and spent decades launching rockets into Israel.
The same applies to the Houthis. Yemen could be a prosperous nation like its neighbours. Instead it’s a war-torn dump in abject poverty. Ever wonder why we sell weapons to our questionable “ally” of Saudi Arabia to fight them? Because for all that SA is terrible, the Houthis are worse.
Do you think their Iranian backers will tell them to back down once they learn that they have full control over a major shipping lane, and the ability to blackmail the world with it? That’s the true path that leads to WW3.
What if some of those merchant sailors (who are often so poor they can’t even afford to leave port) are Palestinians? Is it okay to kill those Palestinians?
of course not. but its very disingenious to start caring about palestinians when trade routes are disrupted but not when millions of them are getting killed or displaced.
We already cared about Palestinians. It’s not a mutually exclusive position.
good cause someone is actually doing something about it now…
No they’re just making it worse.
Protests do not involve launching explosives at civilians.
then stop throwing explosives at palestine and yemen, very simple.
That’s not how that works. Nobody ever stopped a war by starting another.
not war, genocide.
genocide can be simply stopped.
who really started this war? who is getting bombed by the millions now?
Lol. You do not get to attack random cargo ships and say the countries policing the ocean started it.
Do human lives only matter to you when they’re your team’s?