Gotta agree. While I enjoy just vibing with the comrades here, having those clashes adds hilarity, memes and develops a culture that made eg GZD so unique.
It’s amazing to see how liberals have no idea what to do when they end up outside their circle jerk. They aren’t able to articulate any actual points, and they’re used to just piling on anyone who says things they disagree with and not have to actually make an argument of their own. My favorite is the guy who keeps linking to wikipedia descriptions of logical fallacies without actually understanding them. 😂
It’s already starting to happen in lemmy.ml, saw a post in world news where they called someone a neo Nazi for pointing out a pro Ukraine article was written by a Ukrainian govt official. Chaos ensued.
LMAO just checked c/ukraine on lemmy.ml and it’s completely overrun by libs inventing reality. It’s going to be absolutely incredible to watch the meltdowns when it becomes obvious that the west is losing the war.
Reality hasn’t pierced the bubble yet, in mainstream lib circles Ukraine is still winning and Russian army is falling apart. Putin is about to be overthrown any day now.
I expect that the turning point will be when US cuts and runs. The failed offensive likely moved up the timeline for that significantly. It’s going to be interesting to see how NATO meeting goes in July.
That’s one of the problems with the WSJ article: the framing implies that Ukraine still has a chance of kicking out Russia militarily. While we might be able to see through the headline, even articles like this provide some comfort to liberals.
Oh for sure, and it’s pretty much impossible to publish an honest article in western media at this point. I mean look how Sachs has to go on random youtube channels now.
I don’t think the West plans on losing. I feel they plan to continue it for as long as possible, so as to transfer as much wealth to the military industrial complex as possible.
It’s pretty clear that all the plans the west made over the past two years have resulted in failure, I’m not sure why we should expect anything different going forward. Definitely agree that wealth transfer to the oligarchs who own the MIC is a big part of what keeps the proxy war going though.
its funny on one hand, but also really disturbing tbh. In the USA there are the incoherant liberals and the incoherant fascists and any left wing movement that seek to make the world better is stifled with childish namecalling.
At this point I’m convinced that US is just going to implode as a country. As economic situation continues to unravel people are becoming increasingly agitated, and lacking any sort of understanding of what’s actually happening leads to increased tribalism. Most people in US are now aware at some level that the country isn’t working for the majority of the people, but they just blame the other camp for all the problems. This can easily turn into civil unrest and violence once the material conditions deteriorate to the point where a significant portion of the public finds them unbearable.
In the upper 50-70 posts there’s like 3 your posts critical of the narration and every single other post is straight up either UA propaganda, western repost of UA propaganda or westoid rablings going even further than UA propaganda.
I mean these people have been subjected to some of the most intense propaganda ever deployed for like two years now. Arguably this can even be traced back to the Russiagate conspiracy theory. That primed libs to hate Russia, and then all the Ukraine propaganda just hitches on to that.
This is what happens when you’ve been deep soaked in western lib propaganda on Reddit for years, and are shown a bit of dissonance to the talking points you’ve been gurgling for years.
It’s like exposure/shock therapy… Except they just get scared and run away cause forming your own opinion from facts is scary.
Gotta agree. While I enjoy just vibing with the comrades here, having those clashes adds hilarity, memes and develops a culture that made eg GZD so unique.
It’s amazing to see how liberals have no idea what to do when they end up outside their circle jerk. They aren’t able to articulate any actual points, and they’re used to just piling on anyone who says things they disagree with and not have to actually make an argument of their own. My favorite is the guy who keeps linking to wikipedia descriptions of logical fallacies without actually understanding them. 😂
It’s already starting to happen in lemmy.ml, saw a post in world news where they called someone a neo Nazi for pointing out a pro Ukraine article was written by a Ukrainian govt official. Chaos ensued.
LMAO just checked c/ukraine on lemmy.ml and it’s completely overrun by libs inventing reality. It’s going to be absolutely incredible to watch the meltdowns when it becomes obvious that the west is losing the war.
Wait it is not obvious yet? how obvious are we talking here?
Reality hasn’t pierced the bubble yet, in mainstream lib circles Ukraine is still winning and Russian army is falling apart. Putin is about to be overthrown any day now.
I expect that the turning point will be when US cuts and runs. The failed offensive likely moved up the timeline for that significantly. It’s going to be interesting to see how NATO meeting goes in July.
That’s one of the problems with the WSJ article: the framing implies that Ukraine still has a chance of kicking out Russia militarily. While we might be able to see through the headline, even articles like this provide some comfort to liberals.
Oh for sure, and it’s pretty much impossible to publish an honest article in western media at this point. I mean look how Sachs has to go on random youtube channels now.
I don’t think the West plans on losing. I feel they plan to continue it for as long as possible, so as to transfer as much wealth to the military industrial complex as possible.
It’s pretty clear that all the plans the west made over the past two years have resulted in failure, I’m not sure why we should expect anything different going forward. Definitely agree that wealth transfer to the oligarchs who own the MIC is a big part of what keeps the proxy war going though.
I love libs now support literal nazis to the hilt while calling everyone else a nazi for pointing it out.
its funny on one hand, but also really disturbing tbh. In the USA there are the incoherant liberals and the incoherant fascists and any left wing movement that seek to make the world better is stifled with childish namecalling.
At this point I’m convinced that US is just going to implode as a country. As economic situation continues to unravel people are becoming increasingly agitated, and lacking any sort of understanding of what’s actually happening leads to increased tribalism. Most people in US are now aware at some level that the country isn’t working for the majority of the people, but they just blame the other camp for all the problems. This can easily turn into civil unrest and violence once the material conditions deteriorate to the point where a significant portion of the public finds them unbearable.
Ukraine community:
In the upper 50-70 posts there’s like 3 your posts critical of the narration and every single other post is straight up either UA propaganda, western repost of UA propaganda or westoid rablings going even further than UA propaganda.
I mean these people have been subjected to some of the most intense propaganda ever deployed for like two years now. Arguably this can even be traced back to the Russiagate conspiracy theory. That primed libs to hate Russia, and then all the Ukraine propaganda just hitches on to that.
It’s stil not an excuse for the inability to count to 3
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This is what happens when you’ve been deep soaked in western lib propaganda on Reddit for years, and are shown a bit of dissonance to the talking points you’ve been gurgling for years.
It’s like exposure/shock therapy… Except they just get scared and run away cause forming your own opinion from facts is scary.