• ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    If a ship is in international waters, it has every right to be there, regardless of nationalities involved.

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        10 months ago

        I’d be surprised if Iran doesn’t have ships on international water right this very moment

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        10 months ago

        Yes it does. Ships of any nation have a right to transit international waters.

        When Iranian ships (or ships of any nation, really) engage in acts of privacy, then they open themselves up to the consequences, whatever those may be.

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          10 months ago

          The US has been seizing non-Iranian ships in international waters that it claims are carrying Iranian oil. It has been doing this long before the current unpleasantness.

          The country engaging in the act of piracy is the US.

          Also, the Bab Al-Mandreb straight is the territorial waters of Yemen, Eritrea and Djibouti. It is not international waters.

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        10 months ago

        Yes they do. I presume from your stance you are in favour of the US seizing or sinking Iranian ships when they are in waters the US controls just like the Houthis are attempting to do?

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            10 months ago

            I’m confused, do you think international waters, like shipping lanes leaving the Red sea, are a thing or do you believe might makes right and if you can exert force you control it? If the the former then the US and the Houthis are both in the wrong, if the latter then they are both fine. So which is it?

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              10 months ago

              The Bab Al-Mandreb straight is not international waters. It is the territorial waters of Yemen, Eritrea, and Djibouti.

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        10 months ago

        Yes it does. Look up the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, if you’re not being purposefully obtuse.

        And as much as we may not like it, with the way US laws currently are, there is nothing illegal about USN vessels being in the Red Sea

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          10 months ago

          I’m not talking about US law. Who gives a fuck about US law? The ships are there to attack Ansarallah, so they have it coming.

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            10 months ago

            Because, as the warships are US flagged, all that matters for their conduct (until a UN resolution is passed or ICC takes action) is US Law.

            Since the USN vessels are not within the internationally recognized jurisdiction of Yemen, Yemeni laws don’t apply. So it can’t really be illegal, then? Or is the law that no one, anywhere on earth, is allowed to disagree with them?

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              10 months ago

              The Saudi coalition (including the US; the US navy even directly took part in the blockade) has waged war on Ansarallah for years, and created an artificial famine that killed hundreds of thousands, mostly children. The US is waging an illegal war of aggression and genocide on the people of Yemen. They don’t need a UN resolution to have the right to defend themselves.