• happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    The survivors of an American genocide protesting another American genocide by causing slight delays to shipping which makes plastic shit 5% more expensive.

    The Houthi should be Marvel superheroes and models of the bare minimum of protest against genocide. If they sink an aircraft carrier they won’t kill half as many volunteer sailors as those sailors have murdered Palestinian children.

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    It’s critical support because they are having a progressive impact by blocking the genocide in Palestine. Everyone putting this support down by pointing out reactionary ideology is a complete idealist child. None of these “anti-Houthi (Ansar Allah) leftists” actually care to understand why this ideology came about.

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    What’s wrong with civil disobedience?

    0 people killed by the Houthis

    24,000 people including 10,000 children killed by Israel

    • sir_this_is_a_wendys [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      The reality is most of these types are very dimwitted and will parrot the state department line until the next narrative comes along, the they will pretend like they were on ‘the right side of history’. This cycle will continue until death.

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        I wish there was some means of showing whether these people even knew these countries existed and whether they could point to them on a map before they hit the news cycle. I would guess approximately 0% of these libs could’ve done so.

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    Anarcho-Atlanticism is a great way of putting it. These types really aren’t that different from standard CHUDs. They want the Brave New World dystopia because they think they’ll be the alphas, the global north is one big post-labor party while the global south does the heavy lifting for us. Why are these people both annoyingly smug but so perfectly content with being useless?

    • FumpyAer [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      An especially good point made by a maoist redditor:

      Kommandram

      yemeni armed forces*

      it’s important to take into account that the ansar allah movement leads the democratic yemeni republic, which has the majority of important points throughout the country under their control, in which they actively restructure the country by implementing actual characteristica of a central state, implementing land reform, overcoming tribalist and religious sectarian differentiations etc. the media especially of the nato countries usually call them ‘houthi rebels’ in order to present them as a militia, when the reality is that the very ‘government’ they support through the prolonged aggression led by saudi is the one without legitimacy.

      Another relatively good one:

      quite_largeboi

      I praise them specifically blockading israeli & US shipping while both settler colonial regimes are committing genocide against Palestinians but in all other regards they can get fucked.

      All evidence points to them being extremely discriminatory in their embargo & that tracks seeing as they are not stupid & have no interest in spending tens of millions of dollars of their weaponry for no reason. Despite western news pretending that they are & pretending that they’re attacking all ships lol. As far as I see it, every nation & organisation on this planet should be disabling or commandeering all ships heading to israel while they commit a genocide.

  • Zvyozdochka [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    The revolutionary character of a national movement under the conditions of imperialist oppression does not necessarily presuppose the existence of proletarian elements in the movement, the existence of a revolutionary or a republican programme of the movement, the existence of a democratic basis of the movement. The struggle that the Emir of Afghanistan is waging for the independence of Afghanistan is objectively a revolutionary struggle, despite the monarchist views of the Emir and his associates, for it weakens, disintegrates and undermines imperialism; whereas the struggle waged by such “desperate” democrats and “Socialists,” “revolutionaries” and republicans as, for example, Kerensky and Tsereteli, Renaudel and Scheidemann, Chernov and Dan, Henderson and Clynes, during the imperialist war was a reactionary struggle, for its results was the embellishment, the strengthening, the victory, of imperialism. For the same reasons, the struggle that the Egyptians merchants and bourgeois intellectuals are waging for the independence of Egypt is objectively a revolutionary struggle, despite the bourgeois origin and bourgeois title of the leaders of Egyptian national movement, despite the fact that they are opposed to socialism; whereas the struggle that the British “Labour” Government is waging to preserve Egypt’s dependent position is for the same reason a reactionary struggle, despite the proletarian origin and the proletarian title of the members of the government, despite the fact that they are “for” socialism. There is no need to mention the national movement in other, larger, colonial and dependent countries, such as India and China, every step of which along the road to liberation, even if it runs counter to the demands of formal democracy, is a steam-hammer blow at imperialism, i.e., is undoubtedly a revolutionary step.

    — Stalin, The Foundations of Leninism

    They didn’t read the book stalin-bummed

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    You ever notice how they always say their opponents are “praising” the “bad guys”, instead of just supporting? Ties it to thoughts of religious praise, all the better to pretend those silly leftists are just brainwashed zealots!. Reminds me of the Christian fundamentalists who think atheists worship the devil.

    “The twisted caricature in my head is real, and you worship it!”

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    Apparently there is slavery in Yemen, idk where the Houthis land on that, I’m sure new sources in the last week will flood any info about that now, and that seems to be where people are trying to come at this from, but like, we aren’t bombing them because they have slaves you dingus, and our ally fighting them is as slave happy as they come

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        From the little research I’ve done slavery is an issue, 8 years of relentless bombardment and sanctions and impoverishment will force people into precarious situations. As far as I’m aware there hasn’t been like a giant “slavery is legal now” law passed or anything of the sort.

        I don’t know what Ansarallah thinks about slavery, but I know that conditional support does not mean I agree with everything that someone does. I know that the Saudis are not in a position to complain about another nation’s human rights record. And finally I know that I am painfully ignorant about the whole situation.

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      It seems like there’s been some astro turfing about this in the last few days, it is becoming a popular Liberal talking point. Slavery was outlawed back in the 60s, but Saudi outlets claim the Houthis family has 1,800 slaves and wants to expand the practice. Slavery and human trafficking is an issue because of the extreme situation of the people, after 8 years of relentless bombardment the human rights situation is not what most people would consider ideal.

      Slavery does seem to be an issue, and I am not sure how Ansarallah views it.

      But this is why critical support is a very important principle. We can cheer the actions people actively fighting for Palestinians, without saying we agree with everything that they do. Churchill hated Stalin’s guts and vice-versa iirc, but they were willing to work together to defeat the greater enemy.