• mathemachristian[he]
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    9 months ago

    So not voting for Trump is a way of supporting the democratic party. Evens out.

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      9 months ago

      It doesn’t though, because you know for damn sure that every Republican will be voting for trump. If a substantial number of liberals don’t vote for Biden, Trump wins.

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      Each election has a different expected low-turnout winner. In the race for U.S. President, low turnout nearly always benefits the Republicans. So one can expect forfeiting their vote to have the equivalent effect as voting for the low-turnout winner, i.e. Trump.

      In a first-past-the-post voting system under duopoly control, voting third party is equivalent to forfeiting your vote.

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        But thats good news, you can force the democrats to run a different candidate by threatening to withhold your vote. And if they don’t, you have to make good on your threat.

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          I suppose, so long as you’re ok with “making good on your threat” meaning living the remainder of your life in a fascist dictatorship. That’s a little far for me to go to prove a point to people I’ve never met that probably won’t even get my message.

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          Also, what good would teaching the Democrats a lesson do when Trump winning likely means an end to democracy.

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            The slide into fascism isn’t stopping under a genocide supporter. At best it slows down a bit.

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                The democrats won’t change if you don’t make them. They’re the ones playing with fire.

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                    But protesting, threatening and making your voice heard would. Tell them you will withhold your vote. Make sure they understand that you don’t vote for people that facilitate literal genocide. The apathy of the liberal block is confounding.

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              At best it slows down a bit.

              YES!!! You get it! Now use that little bit of time if you’re so inclined to try to prevent a slide into fascism in whatever way you do think might work.

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                  That’s up to each person. I’m personally working on forming a local mutual aid group.

                  Others can do what they can or are willing to. Others may not have hope that things could be truly made better, But to those people I’d say, don’t you think it’s worth it to expend just the little bit of effort it takes to vote? Is there nobody in your life that you’d spend an hour’s worth of effort to potentially save their lives or at least put people in office that allow them to legally use the restroom?

                  Make no mistake, Republicans intentionally make life difficult for minorities , risky, scary, and