Lol thanks for reminding me why I love Star Wars but always avoid the communities and fans at every possible cost 👍

  • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Wouldn’t have even been that bad bringing palps back if they bothered to give it any exposition.

    But no, instead we got

    “Somehow”

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      10 months ago

      What’s hilarious is that a Fortnite event was where his broadcast was played; iirc we didn’t even hear it in the actual movie, just that he is back… somehow.

      This also means that Fortnite is canonical to the Disney EU.

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      10 months ago

      Didn’t they show the whole cloning thing or was that two different movies?

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        10 months ago

        They alluded to it, showing the vats of snoke-esque body parts, as well as the classic “unnatural” line, but they never outright explain it. Basically, unless you’re a hardcore fan who can pick up on the hints, I think you’d have a hard time understanding how he came back. Hence the criticism of the “Somehow” statement. Personally, I just think it is a bad line. It highlights that if the writers really wanted to bring Palpatine back, they would have needed to build up to it throughout the trilogy. By just saying “somehow”, the skip over what could have been a captivating mystery, had they had the time to make it. That, in my opinion, is the biggest flaw of the sequels. The lack of direction with no ending in mind. In my opinion, a good plot twist has clues that build up to the big reveal. That is mostly nonexistent here, as it’s clear Abrams vision in mind when making The Force Awakens. He just wanted to say he made a star wars movie, then move on with his career.

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          10 months ago

          I always thought it was really clearly cloning. Haven’t seen the movie in a long while but never felt like they didn’t explain it.

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            10 months ago

            I mean, sure, but was the Palpatine Anakin killed a clone (therefore reducing his impact)? Is the new palps a clone? Does he have palps consciousness or just a copy of his memories? If he’s a clone, who made him and raised him? He seems pretty old, is it because of accelerated clone aging or because he’s the original?

            You know, interesting sci-fi/force things to explore in a sci-fi/force trilogy.

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              10 months ago

              New one was a clone, I just assumed it was 1-1 clone. I don’t think it all needs to be explored and explained. I felt the same way about the force.

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      10 months ago

      At the time, “somehow” seemed such a lazy thing, but now with all the series (especially Mando and Ahsoka) we see what the “somehow” is, so maybe they were just like, “we’ll leave that up to the next guys to flesh out,” sort of thing.