• Eldritch@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    The system doesn’t make sense. Everyone knows that. But it’s the system we have. So you either have to engage with the system to change the system. As we have historically done. Or find a way to overthrow the system to replace it with something better. something that has only ever been attempted by racists and in more recent times, twice by Republican fascists. Though not many share their limited idea of better.

    You want better choices? Don’t just vote every 4 years in the general. Vote every year in every primary and general. Don’t just vote. Campaign for someone. Don’t just campaign for someone. Run yourself.

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      10 months ago

      Someone has never heard of the French Revolution or the October revolution.

      Apparently only right wingers get to work outside of the system. If you’re a good person you work within the system. /s

      Peak liberal right here. “The status quo is what we have, no matter how horrible. What are you, some kind of right winger?”

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        10 months ago

        I was speaking specifically about American history. But if you want to be a jerk. Yes, those things did happen. And that October revolution worked out so well for the USSR. They’ll never have a fascist in charge of them. Oh wait, the USSR fell. They have a fascist in charge of them. Oh well, at least the French revolution was all good and they don’t have a wishy-washy capitalist simp in charge. Shocked Pikachu. Maybe we should check it on that American revo…no. it’s almost like violent revolutions are really only good for a short time cathartic release through murder. And not actual long-term significant change. Don’t get me wrong. Let me know when you all decide to finally go March on zuck or musk and drag them out of their homes. I’m totally there for that. But we need to have a plan afterwards. Because a bloody revolution tends to only beget bloody revolution, it seems.

        And I’m afraid to say that if you think that those groups are in any way significantly right-wing you are the one who’s willfully uninformed here. Authoritarians are not significantly left or right-wing they’ll do whatever it takes to keep their power.

        By the way sweetheart, I’m a communist/socialist libertarian. Not ML. But you tell yourself whatever you need to tell yourself to make yourself feel better. Talk about peak tanky!

    • Aniki 🌱🌿
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      10 months ago

      The system isn’t real. Laws are not real. Money isn’t real. Government isn’t real.

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        10 months ago

        We may not like them. And I don’t. But they are absolutely real. Or else we wouldn’t be talking about it right now.

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          10 months ago

          You cannot touch a law, a border, or fiat currency. They are not real.

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            10 months ago

            I get what you’re saying and agree in spirit of your words, but you can’t touch space or vacuum either, but they’re real. Or if you want to call them lack of something, then there’s dark matter and dark energy which barely interact with anything so should be untouchable. Real and tangible are different things basically.

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              10 months ago

              You can empirically prove that a vacuum exists. Do the same for a law.

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            10 months ago

            They can all have you killed and they’re very real. Unfortunately. While we need to abolish them pretending they aren’t real and don’t exist is the height of inanity.