China is helping Russia evade Western sanctions and likely providing Moscow with military and dual-use technology for use in Ukraine, according to an unclassified U.S. intelligence report released on Thursday.
  • u_tamtam@programming.dev
    42·
    11 months ago

    That’s not my hill to die on, but what exactly about authoritarian ethno states scratching each other’s back makes it “left wing”?

    • EremesZorn@beehaw.org
      23·
      11 months ago

      This guy is a typical lemmygrad user spouting off bullshit tankie talking points. Don’t even bother.

      • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
        35·
        11 months ago

        A woman from hexbear actually. Not everyone on the internet is a man, you can afford to not be sexist and stop perceiving man as the default. I hope reading my conditional defense of historical and existing somewhat successful socialist projects hasn’t given you too much diarrhea.

    • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
      46·
      11 months ago

      The USSR famously subsidized and gave autonomy to the non Russian SSRs. Russofication was obviously a problem but much less of a problem than during the monarchy or the post union capitalist state. There is a reason why the non Russian SSRs voted at higher rates than the Russian SSR to stay in the USSR during the referendum before the illegitimate dissolution of the soviet union.

      https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1920/11/13.htm

      China famously exempted all ethnic minorities from the one child policy.

      • u_tamtam@programming.dev
        32·
        11 months ago

        Yeah but we are today, and I fail to see what’s actually “left wing” about the present situation. Is Russia (a fascist kleptocracy) being helped by China (state capitalist and only communist in name) somehow contributing to spreading socialism ideals? In retrospect that was maybe a rhetorical question.

        • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
          25·
          11 months ago

          (state capitalist and only communist in name)

          I would read an English translation of “On the Governance of China” as well as this https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/

          Even Lenin acknowledged that you can’t get rid of capitalism quickly, and China started from an even worse position than the USSR.

          Empires competing and creating multipolarity benefits China, other socialist nations, and the imperial periphery looking to break free. Keep in mind that mao’s three worlds theory is a major influence on some socialist factions in China, even if it is reductionist. Russia maintaining strength to challenge the US(including if it comes through a defeat or truce in ukraine)(note that China is pushing for a truce which would maintain Russia’s ability to defend itself from NATO better, but supplying them to maintain their strength) is a good thing in their calculus, and I haven’t seen any compelling rebuttals to it.

          • u_tamtam@programming.dev
            2·
            11 months ago

            Realistically, China, as an hegemony seeking super power, would do the same thing no matter what century and flavor of autocratic regime is at the helm at that particular time. No need to make it more than what it is, really.

            • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
              14·
              11 months ago

              as an hegemony seeking super power

              Citation needed.

              Also you didn’t really respond to anything said.

              • u_tamtam@programming.dev
                31·
                11 months ago

                as an hegemony seeking super power

                Citation needed.

                Have you ever listen to the CCP’s rhetoric? Especially Xi’s neo-traditionnalism and “restoring China’s just place at the center of the world”.

                Also you didn’t really respond to anything said.

                And neither did you, you were off-topic from the get go.

                • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
                  15·
                  11 months ago

                  Have you ever listen to the CCP’s rhetoric? Especially Xi’s neo-traditionnalism and “restoring China’s just place at the center of the world”.

                  When China historically was the “center of the world” did they exert imperial hegemony over the rest of the known world?

                  This is a rhetorical question, because they didn’t.

                  When you look at the way China has been making itself “center of the world” you’ll note the lack of imperialism in their policy. They do not rely on financial and military control in foreign countries the way empires do.

                  And neither did you, you were off-topic from the get go.

                  You were claiming they weren’t left wing and were state capitalist, I was addressing that misconception. Did you just try to say this as a “no you!”?