• BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.worldOPM
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    5 months ago

    It actually has roots in the white supremacist ‘religion’ that is called Christian Identity dating back to 1971, which is still active today as well. In the 1990s the Moorish Science Temple began having an offshoot of sovcits among their members. There is also a Hawaiian sovcit movement.

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      5 months ago

      Interesting! Out of curiosity, you obviously have a trove of these posts from communities…are you just a whacko connoisseur? Or does the sovcit movement specifically interest you? Were you ever a part of it? How do you know so much about it?

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        So I am interested in right wing extremists in general; I maintain a Facebook alt simply for the purpose of infiltrating white supremacists (and getting them in trouble and getting their accounts deleted-even reported two Capitol rioters). Sovereign citizens are an offshoot of that interest, but they’re mostly just funny to me because they’re so ridiculous, although I do think they’re somewhat dangerous to their children if nothing else. The ADL does some sovereign citizen work and I find it very interesting, and the ADL researcher Mark Pitcavage maintains a special interest in sovereign citizens which is what got me into them. I recommend his Twitter as well as that of Dr Christine Sarteschi who has written a book about sovereign citizens.

        My big interest is the rise of Christian Identity ideology among young white supremacists, it’s something researchers are just really starting to take notice of, and I supply journalists and researchers information as well. I think CI is what’s causing younger white supremacist groups like Patriot Front to attract members and also to what’s called the trad life movement.

        I am a lefty antifascist from cradle to grave, and have never had association with anyone on the right in any form, I think they’re all dumber than a bag of hammers. I spend immense amounts of time immersed in these strange worlds and I’ve only become more repelled by their beliefs over the last five years.

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      Hawaiian sovereignty or rich white dudes, not really fair to lump those things together

      not really in support of those guys either but a number of them are self sufficient if they had natural resource control