• Granite@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    Forrest Valkai, a biologist on YT, has a fantastic response to this. He can argue about when/how life starts, but the argument isn’t about this, this is about bodily autonomy instead.

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      9 months ago

      I’m actually really interested in watching whatever video you are referencing, are you by chance able to provide a link? I’m not closed minded, but I do generally try to listen to what the majority of scientist [in whatever relevant area of the topic of discussion] are saying.

      edit: I’m unsure why this comment is being down voted but I’m genuinely interested in watching whatever video you are referencing, as simply by looking at their channel I was unable to find a video that is seemingly relevant to the topic at hand

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          9 months ago

          You are correct, I guess it depends on the age, but there are US states that allow abortion “at any stage” (Colorado for example).

          To ensure we are operating off of common definitions:

          Embryo: An embryo is an initial stage of development of a multicellular organism.

          Fetus: A fetus or foetus is the unborn offspring that develops from an animal embryo.

          Regardless the “development stage”, I would argue it is still a human.

          It’s not somehow a dolphin embryo that all the sudden turns into a human at birth.

          I would argue at any stage, it is still a human organism, therefore human.

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            So now you’re making your own arguments away from your original position? Got any scientists to back up your preconceived ideas? Find me some peer-reviewed articles that suggest (not prove cause that’s very rarely how science works) that the cells developed are not dolphin embryos first. Since we’re just jumping to whatever conclusion fits our narrative now…

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            9 months ago

            Does Colorado allow abortion at any stage for a healthy fetus or does there need to be medical reasons beyond a certain point? Be honest.