The rail union contract expires at the end of this year meaning the rail union workers can strike again sometime in 2025. Whoever wins the 2024 general election and becomes president will immediately have to deal with that possibility. If Biden is serious about how Trump is the biggest threat we face then promising to veto any attempts to force another contract onto the rail unions is a bargain.

Your move Joe. Are you willing to compromise with leftists or do you want to go down in history as the second establishment Democrat who lost to Donald Trump?

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    The risk of losing to fascists is there either way. What, do you think that compromise with progressive positions is nothing but a net electoral gain? You’d have to be stone-dead stupid to look at the American electorate and believe that.

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      That’s a tacit admission you’re fighting us. With every effort by progressives and leftists you’ll be there saying it’s too radical and the electorate won’t go for it. You will insist it’s never the right time. It’s never the right way.

      We are not on the same side.

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        As a progressive, I’m opposed to fascism. As a useful idiot, you’re indifferent to it.

        You are right. We aren’t on the same side.

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          You can call yourself whatever you want but I’m curious what actions differentiate you from a moderate. You’re attacking progressive and moderate efforts, insisting we vote for procorporate trash and calling us names for attempting to push for something better.

          The party has no shortage of Boomer moderates acting the same way as you and saying the same things as you. What exactly do you think you’re contributing to progressive efforts?

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            I’m ‘behaving no different than a moderate’ because I think a moderate is preferable to fascism.

            Okay. You have fun with that.

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              You’re a progressive who behaves like a moderate then? Why not just call yourself a moderate?

              Anyway, I’m not sure what you hope to accomplish here. I’m not changing my mind on this and I suspect a substantial population of voters Joe Biden is depending on to win feel the same way. You coming in here calling us names isn’t going to change our minds. So what’s your goal?

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                You’re a progressive who behaves like a moderate then? Why not just call yourself a moderate?

                Believe it or not, actual progressives oppose fascism. That’s a common cause for this election with moderates. Yes, that’s right - not everything moderates do is bad! Usually it’s just half-hearted. Shocking, I know.

                So what’s your goal?

                To call out blatantly obvious attempts to concern troll fascism into power.

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                  Believe it or not, actual progressives oppose fascism.

                  Moderates do too and they’ve been controlling the party for decades. What’s your opinion on how well they’ve done?

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                    Moderates do too and they’ve been controlling the party for decades. What’s your opinion on how well they’ve done?

                    I have yet to see a fascist emerge as a Democratic candidate, so at least tolerably well.

                    Want to remind me how throwing a bitch-fit over someone not being left-enough worked out in 2016? Oh, right, the suffering of minorities and labor under the Trump administration don’t matter to you, much less the erosion of democracy in this country. Mea culpa, I forgot purity tests are the only thing that matters.