• dannoffs [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    9 months ago

    There are genuine academic critiques to be made of some of Furr’s work. “He made me learn America bad” and “he made me learn about pirates and communism” aren’t them.

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      9 months ago

      Yes. J Arch Getty - a legit Soviet historian who is a lib but is still very fair to Stalin IMO and generally very USSR-friendly - once said that Furr understands the material in the archives, but he just comes to really weird conclusions.

      I think Furr is fine as long as you know you’re getting an apologist more than a historian. There’s a place for that. Furr himself admittedly (on the Proles pod) he thinks Stalin did nothing wrong. If you approach history from that angle you’re going to have blind spots. IMO skip Furr and go to Losurdo.

  • Yllych [any]@hexbear.net
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    9 months ago

    “my professor made me learn about my own country’s barbarism!”

    “He was anti American during the class about the time we tried to exterminate the brutes in Vietnam!”

    " He said we could read Hansel and Gretel and have warm milk and cookies but tricked us and forced us to read Heart of Darkness!"

    these are deeply unserious people and I wish the bottom left one in particular a very join the Marines and drown in the red sea

    Edit :just saw that one was in 2007 but my sentiments still stand.

    • raven [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      9 months ago

      I had a history prof go on a class long tangent about how communists were evil because Marx said religion is the opiate of the masses. I, being a cringe atheist at the time thought “damn that’s cool af, this Marx guy is spitting” and I think that was the general consensus of the class.

      Geography professor however started day one with a lecture on why Mercator, and most other map projections are racist, and told us that he wasn’t listening to any complaints about saying that from anyone white.