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    5 months ago

    Uh huh.

    It’s just another way people choose to spend their time. We are already free but the problem is chaos reigns supreme. Our governments are just “order” naturally made from “chaos”. So no government is actually supreme. I suppose protestation is also another segment of “order” from “chaos” but the the result won’t ever be a contrasting change made in our lifetime.

    Same for education and change… And anything else. We are at the mercy of universal laws. Nothing will ever change that except maybe going full matrix and creating a digital world with coded rules that would take the place of universe/God and “humanity”.

    Freedom is only found in the present moment. All else is wasting the future.

    This was supposed to be a joke but I also think it’s true.

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      You sound like a Gnostic that believes that they are having a personal battle with the Demiurge. There are the rules of “spirit” also known as common sense that confine what nature can be. However the rules of matter often discover that the world is stranger than our cultural ancestors presumed and we should update our understanding accordingly. A more accurate understanding helps one understand why something exists. Knowing why something exists can tell you how to make something not exist. This applies to living things, people, societal concepts and all other things. To give up on the concept of understanding is to relinquish one’s power to those that want to keep power. It is the common sense of the spirit that fights understanding that truly limits ones power and freedom more than the limits of matter.

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        5 months ago

        I’m always impressed by the knowledge and academic type responses you “communists” respond with.

        I’m just a loner stoner that’s been lost in though for nearly 2 decades and most the stuff people say goes over my head., lol.

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          TLDR

          Its good to learn things. Its good to apply oneself in earnest to the universe to see where they are wrong in practical tests. Both success and failure teach you how the world works. Its better than presuming there is nothing to learn and nothing will ever change.

          Perhaps your comprehension skills will improve if you lay off the pot.

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            Because it’s such a misused word in politics these days. As well as not having a full understanding of actual communism.

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              you got raked with the downvotes earlier but i think this is a based mindset you have. you seem confident in what you do know and don’t mind admitting what you don’t. i think you should try and foster your curiosity further. if you really wanted to know what commies think you can learn. it’s not a skill or an intellectual issue, it’s just about being curious enough.

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              And you think this applies to us? Lol what exactly is your “full understanding of actual (again lol) communism”?

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                5 months ago

                No not lemmygrad in particular. You guys are on top of your game.

                I don’t really have much understanding of any politics.

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                  You should stick around and learn, we’re always open to educating those who don’t understand. It won’t hurt, if anything it’ll improve your understanding of the world around you so 💁🏿‍♂️

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      You need to start thinking in materialist categories. “Order” in society does not exist as a universal principle, it is always the byproduct of concrete interests with concrete means to enforce them, and the fundamental nature of the social order depends on and changes with what these interests are. Once you know this, you can understand the dialectics of society and convince yourself that only the lower class can and must be the motor for fundamental social change. The role of protest is not to create further “order”, but to articulate the interests of the lower class and sections within it, to mend its internal divisions, and to precipitate the changes its interests necessitate.