My brother in Christ, look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself what it means to be a communist.
While it should include a desire to see the melting away of the state, the goal is emancipation from the terror, death, and destruction the state imposes.
Jesus, dude. We shall make no excuses for the terror is supposed to be reserved for the capitalists and imperialists, not for the proles, which are the ones doing a lot of the dying in this conflict propagated by the West.
“We shall make no excuses for the terror” is a memorable turn of phase but not an actual principle of communism, as evidenced by the fact that the immediate context of the quote makes an excuse for the terror:
When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror. But the royal terrorists, the terrorists by the grace of God and the law, are in practice brutal, disdainful, and mean, in theory cowardly, secretive, and deceitful, and in both respects disreputable.
It’s saying revolutionary violence directed at overturning oppressive conditions is justified by the violence of oppression (see also Mark Twain’s “two reigns of terror” quote). It is not saying “we’ll be as violent as we want against whoever we want with no need to justify our actions.”
It’s borderline just sadism to hope that more Ukrainians die for the sake of taking up more US money. The US being forced to concede on Ukraine is better for the world and for the non-Nazi survivors of this stupid war.
Honestly, I kind of get it. The Ukrainians had been using Avdiivka as a base to shell civilians since 2014. Now that the shoe’s on the other foot, and the fleeing Ukrops are caught (according to some reports) in a highway of death type situation, it’s tempting to cheer and hope that all the people who supported the junta get the same treatment.
But indulging that kind of feeling is unworthy of a communist.
I don’t really see the psychological attraction you’re referring to either, tbh; it mainly strikes me as a form of self-indulgent sadism one can only engage in when the war is a highly abstracted team sport being viewed from the comfort of an armchair in another part of the world.
The average Ukrainian soldier is a prole who is drafted into the war and doesn’t want to be there. You might think they hold reactionary opinions (and many of them undoubtedly do), but that’s no basis for any ethically or politically coherent position when it comes to how to deal with the issue. It’s the obligation of communists to educate their fellow working class members in order to deal with those reactionary tendencies.
This of course doesn’t apply as much to the openly and explicity fascist and neonazi presences in the Ukrainian military and the fascist and oligarchic forces controlling the state. They don’t really deserve much time or mercy.
Agreed, and it’s much better to let the fascists face an orderly reprisal for their crimes rather than keep fighting and be given the opportunity to kill more soldiers.
People are dying
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My brother in Christ, look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself what it means to be a communist.
While it should include a desire to see the melting away of the state, the goal is emancipation from the terror, death, and destruction the state imposes.
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Jesus, dude. We shall make no excuses for the terror is supposed to be reserved for the capitalists and imperialists, not for the proles, which are the ones doing a lot of the dying in this conflict propagated by the West.
“We shall make no excuses for the terror” is a memorable turn of phase but not an actual principle of communism, as evidenced by the fact that the immediate context of the quote makes an excuse for the terror:
It’s saying revolutionary violence directed at overturning oppressive conditions is justified by the violence of oppression (see also Mark Twain’s “two reigns of terror” quote). It is not saying “we’ll be as violent as we want against whoever we want with no need to justify our actions.”
It’s borderline just sadism to hope that more Ukrainians die for the sake of taking up more US money. The US being forced to concede on Ukraine is better for the world and for the non-Nazi survivors of this stupid war.
Not borderline, it’s just full on sadism. It’s not as if he’s going to go fight in the war himself if he cares so much about ending US hegemony.
Honestly, I kind of get it. The Ukrainians had been using Avdiivka as a base to shell civilians since 2014. Now that the shoe’s on the other foot, and the fleeing Ukrops are caught (according to some reports) in a highway of death type situation, it’s tempting to cheer and hope that all the people who supported the junta get the same treatment.
But indulging that kind of feeling is unworthy of a communist.
I don’t really see the psychological attraction you’re referring to either, tbh; it mainly strikes me as a form of self-indulgent sadism one can only engage in when the war is a highly abstracted team sport being viewed from the comfort of an armchair in another part of the world.
The average Ukrainian soldier is a prole who is drafted into the war and doesn’t want to be there. You might think they hold reactionary opinions (and many of them undoubtedly do), but that’s no basis for any ethically or politically coherent position when it comes to how to deal with the issue. It’s the obligation of communists to educate their fellow working class members in order to deal with those reactionary tendencies.
This of course doesn’t apply as much to the openly and explicity fascist and neonazi presences in the Ukrainian military and the fascist and oligarchic forces controlling the state. They don’t really deserve much time or mercy.
Agreed, and it’s much better to let the fascists face an orderly reprisal for their crimes rather than keep fighting and be given the opportunity to kill more soldiers.
What do you mean by this?