Some fertility clinics and transport services are worried about shipping embryos following the Alabama Supreme Court’s ruling that embryos are children.
Some fertility clinics and shipping services plan to hold off on sending frozen embryos from Alabama to other states as they weigh the legal implications of an Alabama court ruling that says embryos created through in vitro fertilization are children.
Many doctors and patients are confused about which elements of fertility treatment are restricted, following the Alabama Supreme Court decision last week, and at least three Alabama providers have paused IVF services. Some IVF patients have considered moving their embryos out of the state to continue the process elsewhere, only to learn that the option isn’t available to them right now.
if you live in alabama the most important thing you can do in your life is leave. even if you have to sleep in your car for a summer while you settle in a safer less insane state. This is what I’d be doing I’d walk myself out if I had nothing,
With due respect, that’s really easy to say when you’re not the one who would be homeless.
I’ve been homeless so I at least broach this with empathy. Have you been homeless also? Is that how we qualify what we can say what?
Everything is easy to say btw. Except worstichire that ones tough to say
Even if that experience was tolerable for you, that doesn’t mean it would be tolerable for others. To the hell with extremities.
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I thought that too but also wondered about people with kids or people $15,000+ into fertility treatments. Who these political shenanigans have the most immediate affect on.
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I hope more and more health care providers start moving out of red states. Stupid games should have stupid prizes. A year or two of “pioneer medicine” might teach them to vote better.
(I know, they consistently vote against their own interests, but a few of them do learn to do better. Have seen it happen.)
There’s a shortage of doctors and nurses everywhere. So almost anywhere they move to, they will be helping to alleviate suffering there. Let the red states fend for themselves, since they think they are rugged individuals.
Anytime something bad happens as a result of their voting habits they just blame Obama.
I would rather more blue voters move to these red states and flip them. But you know, convincing 1 million of California’s 40 million to move to Alabama is a tall order.
As a blue voter in a red state (I grew up here) there’s a real problem with that of you have to live here. Also if Californians could please stop coming here actually that would be nice. California conservatives keep coming here and acting like it’s some great place where they can be super conservative and talk down to us midwestern yokels. Like motherfucker you moved to one of the bluest cities in the Midwest, it’s not our fault our state suffered brain drain and went red as a result, also quit with your Orange County bullshit.
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So… if you are in possession of a embryo and you’re not the DNA donor for it and you ship it to another clinic across state lines, wouldn’t that be child trafficking?
As we continue to go down this dark path, eventually the people who run healthcare facilities are going to have to set up their own underground railroad to escape the state before they’re arrested doing basic healthcare activities.
Not a lawyer but wouldn’t it then be a federal issue?
It then depends on what the federal courts think about the embryo=child issue.
Maybe the state could still prosecute you for possible state crimes, but dunno
For God’s sake don’t take pictures of them.
If you transport it across state lines with intent to implant it, is it transport a minor to another state for sex?
If you transport it and then don’t use/destroy it, is it conspiracy to commit murder? Even if the “murder” is in another state, they can show the intent started in Alabama so you get the conspiracy fun.
I can see the owners of the clinics being personally liable financially
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They could just say they’re shipping the embryos to Matt Gaetz because he wants to fuck ‘em.
Thats kidnapping
Need two signatures, one from each parent, to cross state lines.
I guess we have to identify all the sperm donors and have them sign. Or pay child support.
“Sir, you need to pay for the electricity bill of your freezer. It’s not gonna freeze itself, you know!”
Is this fertility clinic licensed as a day care?
Many of those embryos are old enough that they should be going to school. They’re truant.
How many embryos can I claim on my taxes?
I don’t understand why they can’t continue the IVF - it’s the only way for the embryo to “grow” or “advance”. In a way, and using their logic, it’s denying them a chance at life.
What’s their intent? To keep them there forever, despite the intent of the parents who want to implant them?
The state isn’t (specifically) stopping it, the companies are. And can you really blame them when they’re apparently facing manslaughter
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Ah, I misunderstood. And no, I can’t blame them.
Yes.
There comes a point where even legal departments have to say: this is fucking nonsense.
The whole point is that the court declared open season, they don’t have anything to hide behind when an embryo inevitably dies (which is routine in IVF, you implant many at once to accommodate for anticipated embryo loss).
