The left is relative. Otherwise we still believe in the solutions of 50 years ago now.
Try nationalising manufacturing and farms. See how well that works. That was left wing once. Now it’s not. Even if there are still things you would nationalise.
You’re trying to create absolutes to argue easily against. That’s often the way political discourse goes but it’s wrong.
By all means build a straw man and totem of the left and right but it’s far more interesting to find the nuance and use your intelligence rather than treating the debate like a team sport to be won and lost.
Some do. Plenty on the left don’t because studies and examples since have shown where public ownership falls flat on its face and where it’s the only efficient way of doing things. As well as the grey area in between.
The left is relative. Otherwise we still believe in the solutions of 50 years ago now.
Try nationalising manufacturing and farms. See how well that works. That was left wing once. Now it’s not. Even if there are still things you would nationalise.
You’re trying to create absolutes to argue easily against. That’s often the way political discourse goes but it’s wrong.
By all means build a straw man and totem of the left and right but it’s far more interesting to find the nuance and use your intelligence rather than treating the debate like a team sport to be won and lost.
We do still believe in those solutions?
Some do. Plenty on the left don’t because studies and examples since have shown where public ownership falls flat on its face and where it’s the only efficient way of doing things. As well as the grey area in between.
No, no leftist is for privatized ownership of the means of production.
Even market socialists, an extremely niche group barely even worth mentioning still advocate for it public ownership of most things.
Simply wrong.
Most people on the left are advocating for evidence based policies and experts in the decision making process.
Not guessing games based on ideology.