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    9 months ago

    Yeah, that’s an incredibly shitty and nihilistic take. People only have so much bandwidth, so while yes, there does seem to be public responses to what’s based on the news, people are at least having the right reactions to it. Would you rather no one say anything? What would that say about our society and culture as a whole if they were okay with blatant genocide when it was broadcast in front of him?

    And here’s the thing, we don’t really have any ties to Yemen, or Myanmar, but we DO have direct ties to Israel. In fact, if it weren’t for the US involvement and the alliance with Israel, they never would have been as advanced and powerful as they are now. The US President has a direct influence to what is going on in Gaza, and if he wished it, he could have immediately put a stop to it. But he didn’t. He is putting pressure on them now at least to start minimizing the civilian casualties, but it never would have happened if it wasn’t for people protesting like this. These people are some of THE ONLY ONES that are out there and making a direct change, and your minimalizing their efforts and success.

    I find it incredibly ironic how you try to paint these people as being ignorant, when you yourself have shown just how ignorant and unabashedly jaded you are at people’s attempts to help.

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        The US President has a direct influence to what is going on in Gaza, and if he wished it, he could have immediately put a stop to it.

        Israel enjoys some American cash but don’t think for a second it has power over them.

        At the end of the day Israel is ranked 29th in GDP and it has 400 nukes. No outsiders can tell them what to do, not even the Americans.

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          Israel never would have gotten there without US assistance. The US wanted a strong foothold to the middle east and thus enabled Israel by giving them almost $4 billion per year. They are literally a core element of the US’s entire Middle East policy.

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            We had to work with someone in the area, better to do it with those who scored higher at understanding reality and rational thought.

            Our other options were to trust those who worship a pedophile that married a 6 year old and raped her when she was 9. They will also behead you if you draw said pedophile with a crayon.

            Not exactly the type of people you want to be allied with.

            Judaism has some weird shit as well but I don’t have to take my shoes off at the airport because of them nor do they get all beheady when you wanna make some cartoons about Yahweh so they’re already streets ahead in my rankings.

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          9 months ago

          Israel enjoys some American cash but don’t think for a second it has power over them.

          Then there’s no reason that Netanyahu can’t carry on with his genocide without our help.

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          9 months ago

          If the US put a carrier group in the med and said either you stop or we stop you, Israel would stop.

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            Oh really? Hasn’t worked on the Houthis and they’ve been actively striking them for months.

            Aside from that nuclear powers don’t have direct conflicts for obvious reasons. If the US even thought about it Israel would remind them of the Samson protocol.

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              The Houthis are a rebel group used to hiding in caves while bombs fall. Apples and Oranges.

              And anyone who is using nukes to cover for genocidal actions needs to lose those nukes ASAP. We don’t let Iran have nukes because we consider them unstable. If Israel is really willing to bomb the entire middle east just to keep killing civilians then they are demonstrably less stable.