Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has warned that it was “inevitable” that “war” would come to Russia after authorities there were forced to temporarily close a busy Moscow airport following an overnight drone attack on the capital.

  • darthfabulous42069
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    1 year ago

    We are talking the lowest possible standard: the war crime standard.

    With all due respect, we are not talking about anything. I told you in no uncertain terms that you’re clearly just astroturfing for Russia – and it’s pretty apparent you are – and therefore there’s no point in continuing, yet here you are. I guess that’s my fault for forgetting to simply block you earlier.

    There’s no way to have a conversation with someone who is projecting their own behavior by slinging accusations of dishonesty while acting that way for the entire day, with someone who dismisses good points outright, who makes absurdist arguments to justify morally repugnant positions, and who expects to be able to do all of that and not be called out on arguing in bad faith. Which is what you’re doing.

    By your logic, everything the Allies did in WW2 would have constituted a war crime and no reasonable person accepts that interpretation of international law because unlike you (or whoever’s paying you to do this, or whoever converted you), other people apply reason, circumstance and common sense to their moral calculus, which – at least for Ukraine – you reject offhand. And there’s no way to have a conversation with someone like that. Even if we pretend for a second that you’re speaking in earnest, you’re just wrong morally. We consider the morality of actions based on the circumstances and considerations of the actors, situation and zeitgeist of the action, not on an arbitrary declaration pulled from nowhere. The Geneva Convention is not a bible and most countries don’t even adhere to it anymore, and there’s good reason for that: the world simply realized such things didn’t make sense and has moved on from it.

    Whether it’s moral or not is irrelevant anyway because Ukraine’s survival, indeed the survival of any country, is more important than morality. Indeed, if morality cannot serve that basic fundamental purpose of all life, then morality as you define it is useless. Our morality explicitly allows for it, so it’s ours we follow, not yours.

    And that’s the big and small of it. You’re just wrong. What you’re advocating is not only wrong but harmful and dangerous for humanity. You’re just a pro-Russia troll and your words here are woefully misguided at best.

    You are wrong. And it is as simple as that.