9am to 9pm 6 days a week. I’ve done similar in the US, but for a month or two due to staff shortage. Fuck that as a permanent schedule.
Man, sometimes when I read things like that, I realize how lucky I’ve been this whole time. Corps are just out of control.
In the USA, our overtime laws would make that schedule extremely lucrative. I worked a similar schedule one summer when waiting tables. I now work for myself and regularly work a similar schedule (5am-5-6pm+) 5 days a week, sometimes I will not work on Saturday or Sunday but sometimes I will work in the afternoon. I drive for a living, a few apps and my own service.
Overtimes only for hourly workers. A lot of people doing this are on salary and don’t get anything extra for this schedule besides not being fired.
If the company you are currently with isn’t able or willing to make that overtime up via other days off when work allows or with extra pay for the time, a bonus, something, you need to find a different company.
For example, my wife had been working some stupid hours because her company was in a growth phase (and still is) but now they have enough people that her bosses can chip in to help her when needed so she can take time off and both of her direct bosses basically told her to “take some fucking time off” and even with the work load were fine with her taking off, it’s her that doesn’t like coming back to a full queue and email inbox.
Aren’t companies always in a “growth phase”?.. What you’re telling sounds like extreme exploitation to me
Don’t jump to conclusions here. This company actually does take care of their people. Unlimited PTO and they mean it. Better than the best insurance that is self funded and more. She expects her bonus this year to be between 5k and 8k. Her team (and her) before moving up to management has a hard line max on work per day. She is doing work that if the company tried to exploit like that they would regret it immediately because shit work would make it through and their clients would not be happy.
She was originally IC with a company and was one of the first few people hired. They were bought out by a bigger fish and that company is close to a IPO but they are waiting for the market and timing to be just right to pull the trigger. They just hired a bunch of people and she is now running her team, they have made moves like splitting the teams up and creating new groups to focus on certain things to make everyones jobs easier.
As I said and clearly you didn’t read or understand. 2 of her bosses, 1 in particular were telling her to take more time off, even before they hired enough to allow them to chip in and help when needed. Again, it wasn’t them asking her to work more, it was her not being comfortable leaving stuff undone and coming back to even more.
And no, companies aren’t always in a growth phase, not like hers. They are in a niche of a niche industry that is booming. And 90% of the company is work from home without a pay adjustment for locale so we could move to an even lower cost of living area and she would still make the same, she also never has to go to the office but she is probably welcome if we were ever in NYC.
Don’t jump to conclusions here
I’m trying to, but then you immediately say stuff like this:
Unlimited PTO and they mean it.
No, obviously they don’t mean it. This is calculated propaganda. Just try actually taking unlimited time off, of course that won’t go well. The calculation by the company is that the employees, out of loyalty, will take less time off than if they would give a generous, fixed amount, that actually has to be used. And it seems like in case of your SO, it is working perfectly, since she’s not taking time off.
This all really sounds incredibly calculated by the company. I even believe that her bosses believe they’re being nice, but the actual result if you look at it is the not-taking-time-off, which is perfectly in the interest of the company.
I don’t presume to criticize what you’re doing or dismiss your perspective, I’m just saying how it looks to me from what you’re saying. And for me it looks like fake virtue. Maybe I’m too cynical, certainly possible. I assure you, I have no ill intent here.
I’m fine doing overwork as a salaried worker, but I’m gonna compensate it by taking time off, officially or not.
2020 was hell for me. 6AM-9:30PM 3 or four days a week. 10 hours the other 4-5 days. It was the best year I’ve ever had financially though.
I finally found someone and she just sits and watches tv all day. I couldn’t be happier. She’s always on time, only calls out for real shit, considers work a break from farming.
It’s been wonderful.
This post is three years old
In healthcare, in the US. I’ve had to do this. Last year, I spent 6 months doing it.
You really do wish you were dead.
That’s been my average week for about a year now. Couldn’t pay my bills if I didn’t pick up the OT. Also healthcare
Do you live in a major city?
I live in a large city but I wouldn’t consider it “major” in the sense of places like LA, Miami, New York, Boston, etc despite having a larger population than some of them
You may need to move somewhere cheaper if you can’t afford your current location.
I’m living about as cheap as I can reasonably be living in my area. If I moved somewhere else id be taking a significant pay cut to the point where I’d be worse off despite the lower cost of living. You have no idea where I live, how much I make, what I’m doing, the job market surrounding it, my personal expenses, why I am where I am or any other information surrounding my circumstances that you’d need to be able to make an informed statement. And I have no interest in divulging a bunch of personal info to justify my existence to someone who thinks telling me “just go somewhere else” is useful in the slightest. Do you think I, or anyone of the millions of other people in a similar situation haven’t thought about just going somewhere else? Sorry to jump down your throat but if I had a nickel for every time I saw someone doling out surface level advice based on effectively no information I’d be financially secure and this exchange never would’ve happened
Cool. If you make so much money living where you are doing what you’re doing, keep doing it.
Why should you get more before others who have less, though? Is it entitlement, or something else?
(this isnt enforced still)
2021
So ‘moderate’ 996 work culture is okay?
Also, this is an article from 2021; has anything changed since then?
