I also don’t believe that we’d receive none of it either.
The EU will certainly have to exact a price for the whole debacle, but it’d also be beneficial to the EU to add a large, relatively-affluent trading partner back into the bloc. The EU strike me as more pragmatic than petty, and having someone leave and then come back again would really validate the whole community.
I expect in reality we’ll rejoin the EEA and find ways to wrangle most of the benefits (for both sides) without having to fully rejoin and deal with that embarrassment.
Well that is the problem, the damage is done the institutions and businesses relocated or are relocating and everybody spend billions severing ties.
At this point the UK isn‘t a large and affluent trading partner any more. So why would you give a nobody anything special?
Also the EU is power centric and the UK embarrassed themselves worldwide. Why would you want somebody like that on your team?
You can just let them bleed out and talk about them rejoining the team when their pride is broken and they are lit. begging you to rejoin.
Yeah it’s not like Britain rejoining tomorrow would make a sudden change in the UK’s economic output, but it could at least stop it from continuing to deteriorate.
And while the UK GDP is surely on a downwards trend (at least comparatively) that ignores the fact that the UK is still the 6th largest economy in the world and is, i think, still larger than France. Obviously it’d be better for the EU to add a similarly sized country which is growing instead of slowing, but those don’t exist. Turkey’s GDP Is still 4x less than the UK.
Brexit has certainly helped EU cohesion, support for Finnexit or Deportugal has dropped significantly since 2016. However if by some fluke britain turns out to be a success in the next 10 years then it might reverse that trend. The EU can nip that in the bud by coming up with a Brentrance deal that isn’t horribly punitive, because there are real policy and fiscal advantages to the EU in British membership.
I think the UK should accept consequences and deal with it.
The EU (including the UK at one time) became the powerhouse because of its Union.
When some countries seems to think they can do better and leave they weaken that Union. Without consequences countries would be leaving and rejoining the EU when parlaments change. And as an Economic Union you just cannot accept those members. It makes you look weak globally
Do they really? Would they really accept a situation worse than what they previously had in the EU? Wouldn’t that lead to an incredible resentment towards the EU?
I still thinks it’s a great idea. I love visiting friends and family there. But please wait your turn before being considered a potential candidate
Knowing what people are like, I could fully see us spending decades trying to reverse Brexit and being very explicitly clear that we won’t get the same deal we had, only for the general public to completely ignore all advice until two days before the referendum to rejoin and go “wtf we don’t want the Euro” (even if that’s not even on the table) and then vote against it again.
The leavers are delusional. They were stupid then, and they are stupid now. Thankfully a lot of them were old, and in no position to make choices for the future of my country. They are now dead, not around to see the consequences of their actions.
The majority of Britons who want back in understand fully that we won’t receive the special treatment we did before we left.
I also don’t believe that we’d receive none of it either.
The EU will certainly have to exact a price for the whole debacle, but it’d also be beneficial to the EU to add a large, relatively-affluent trading partner back into the bloc. The EU strike me as more pragmatic than petty, and having someone leave and then come back again would really validate the whole community.
I expect in reality we’ll rejoin the EEA and find ways to wrangle most of the benefits (for both sides) without having to fully rejoin and deal with that embarrassment.
Well that is the problem, the damage is done the institutions and businesses relocated or are relocating and everybody spend billions severing ties.
At this point the UK isn‘t a large and affluent trading partner any more. So why would you give a nobody anything special?
Also the EU is power centric and the UK embarrassed themselves worldwide. Why would you want somebody like that on your team?
You can just let them bleed out and talk about them rejoining the team when their pride is broken and they are lit. begging you to rejoin.
Yeah it’s not like Britain rejoining tomorrow would make a sudden change in the UK’s economic output, but it could at least stop it from continuing to deteriorate.
And while the UK GDP is surely on a downwards trend (at least comparatively) that ignores the fact that the UK is still the 6th largest economy in the world and is, i think, still larger than France. Obviously it’d be better for the EU to add a similarly sized country which is growing instead of slowing, but those don’t exist. Turkey’s GDP Is still 4x less than the UK.
Brexit has certainly helped EU cohesion, support for Finnexit or Deportugal has dropped significantly since 2016. However if by some fluke britain turns out to be a success in the next 10 years then it might reverse that trend. The EU can nip that in the bud by coming up with a Brentrance deal that isn’t horribly punitive, because there are real policy and fiscal advantages to the EU in British membership.
I think the UK should accept consequences and deal with it.
The EU (including the UK at one time) became the powerhouse because of its Union.
When some countries seems to think they can do better and leave they weaken that Union. Without consequences countries would be leaving and rejoining the EU when parlaments change. And as an Economic Union you just cannot accept those members. It makes you look weak globally
Do they really? Would they really accept a situation worse than what they previously had in the EU? Wouldn’t that lead to an incredible resentment towards the EU?
I still thinks it’s a great idea. I love visiting friends and family there. But please wait your turn before being considered a potential candidate
Knowing what people are like, I could fully see us spending decades trying to reverse Brexit and being very explicitly clear that we won’t get the same deal we had, only for the general public to completely ignore all advice until two days before the referendum to rejoin and go “wtf we don’t want the Euro” (even if that’s not even on the table) and then vote against it again.
This was one of the arguments I posed to people I know that wanted to leave. That we’d never get a deal as good as we had.
No-one on that side would listen at the time.
The leavers are delusional. They were stupid then, and they are stupid now. Thankfully a lot of them were old, and in no position to make choices for the future of my country. They are now dead, not around to see the consequences of their actions.