many 14 year olds in the UK are two years away from finishing school.
Nothing wrong at all with them learning to turn up on time, get on with co-workers, budget their wages etc. Stand them in great stead for 2 years later when they are into the real world. 16 year old looking for work after leaving school stands a much better chance if they already have work experience
Nah. It’s really not and plenty of them are plenty mature enough to handle simple shit. I washed dishes and did blue berry reading at 14. Low risk, brought in extra money for my hobbies, saved up and got my my first car, taught me the value of money and physical labor. All extremely positive factors in developing my youth.
Your argument is really “we did it before, so it’s fine”? We did a ton of things before that aren’t ok. Historical usage of a thing doesn’t make it ok.
All of human history before capitalism? That makes no sense. How could you have a nightmare form of capitalism before it even existed? Get it together, dude.
We live in capitalism. Therefore, making life worse makes this a worse version of capitalism. Get it now?
Because there is very little risk to health and safety and I don’t see an issue with teens making extra money of the side. You all are just out to be angry and rage at news.
Weird, because UNICEF seems to disagree. But hey, they don’t work in benefits and taxation, so what would they know about child mental and physical health?
"Roughly 160 million children were subjected to child labour at the beginning of 2020, with 9 million additional children at risk due to the impact of COVID-19. This accounts for nearly 1 in 10 children worldwide. Almost half of them are in hazardous work that directly endangers their health and development.
Children may be driven into work for various reasons. Most often, child labour occurs when families face financial challenges or uncertainty – whether due to poverty, sudden illness of a caregiver, or job loss of a primary wage earner.
The consequences are staggering. Child labour can result in extreme bodily and mental harm, and even death. It can lead to slavery and sexual or economic exploitation. And in nearly every case, it cuts children off from schooling and health care, restricting their fundamental rights."
Lmaoooooo you are comparing working in a restaurant to sex trafficking. Top notch shit 👍🤣.
Sure, just as ‘top notch’ as suggesting it’s good for children to make bloated plutocrat corporatists richer off the sweat of their backs rather than enjoy their childhoods because “it never hurt me.”
And, by the way, what exactly do you think will happen to young teenage girls tending bar? Do you think they won’t be sexually harassed by drunk older men, possibly raped?
Or did you forget that this was about allowing young girls to serve alcohol to drunk adults?
Realistically I don’t think you’d even notice a blip on the radar. I’ve found most bars are extremely productive of staff especially women. They are far more likely to be raped at home or with friends. I think this is a lot of truthiness and imaginations running wild.
This is about the U.S. based on the article and you are talking about how school works in a completely different country. In the U.S., middle school is a step between elementary and high school for kids age 12-14 who are too mature for elementary school but not mature enough to be treated with real responsibility yet.
Expecting a child, and they are children, to go out and earn a living at 14 is ridiculous. Especially when it will be a horrible entry-level low-skill miserable job that will just make them unhappy.
“It didn’t do me any harm” is not a reason to do something. And I would say that you have no idea how it harmed your development. People make that claim about getting beaten as kids too.
No child abandonment is illegal. Surrendering your child is legal if done a certain amount of time after birth. Thanks for admitting you know nothing about these laws though.
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14-year-olds often aren’t even in high school yet. That is too young to be working a real job.
many 14 year olds in the UK are two years away from finishing school.
Nothing wrong at all with them learning to turn up on time, get on with co-workers, budget their wages etc. Stand them in great stead for 2 years later when they are into the real world. 16 year old looking for work after leaving school stands a much better chance if they already have work experience
Nah. It’s really not and plenty of them are plenty mature enough to handle simple shit. I washed dishes and did blue berry reading at 14. Low risk, brought in extra money for my hobbies, saved up and got my my first car, taught me the value of money and physical labor. All extremely positive factors in developing my youth.
Sorry, why should a middle schooler be doing physical labor? This sounds like nightmare capitalism.
Sure, if you ignore all of human history it sounds like nightmare capitalism.
You mean all of human history when we had things like slavery and women as property? Yeah, we should keep doing that stuff too, right?
No, you’re making up things to be angry at. Children working existed before capitalism.
And who suggested it didn’t? Oh yeah. No one.
Once again, you misinterpreted. I simply restated my point.
Your argument is really “we did it before, so it’s fine”? We did a ton of things before that aren’t ok. Historical usage of a thing doesn’t make it ok.
No. Children working existed before capitalism, you’re grasping straws coming up with that conclusion of what I said.
All of human history before capitalism? That makes no sense. How could you have a nightmare form of capitalism before it even existed? Get it together, dude.
We live in capitalism. Therefore, making life worse makes this a worse version of capitalism. Get it now?
Because there is very little risk to health and safety and I don’t see an issue with teens making extra money of the side. You all are just out to be angry and rage at news.
Weird, because UNICEF seems to disagree. But hey, they don’t work in benefits and taxation, so what would they know about child mental and physical health?
"Roughly 160 million children were subjected to child labour at the beginning of 2020, with 9 million additional children at risk due to the impact of COVID-19. This accounts for nearly 1 in 10 children worldwide. Almost half of them are in hazardous work that directly endangers their health and development.
Children may be driven into work for various reasons. Most often, child labour occurs when families face financial challenges or uncertainty – whether due to poverty, sudden illness of a caregiver, or job loss of a primary wage earner.
The consequences are staggering. Child labour can result in extreme bodily and mental harm, and even death. It can lead to slavery and sexual or economic exploitation. And in nearly every case, it cuts children off from schooling and health care, restricting their fundamental rights."
Lmaoooooo you are comparing working in a restaurant to sex trafficking. Top notch shit 👍🤣.
Sure, just as ‘top notch’ as suggesting it’s good for children to make bloated plutocrat corporatists richer off the sweat of their backs rather than enjoy their childhoods because “it never hurt me.”
And, by the way, what exactly do you think will happen to young teenage girls tending bar? Do you think they won’t be sexually harassed by drunk older men, possibly raped?
Or did you forget that this was about allowing young girls to serve alcohol to drunk adults?
Realistically I don’t think you’d even notice a blip on the radar. I’ve found most bars are extremely productive of staff especially women. They are far more likely to be raped at home or with friends. I think this is a lot of truthiness and imaginations running wild.
A 16yro with a job vs a 14 yro with a job is a HUGE difference. Those 2 years are massive in development. 14 yro’s should not have a real job yet
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This is about the U.S. based on the article and you are talking about how school works in a completely different country. In the U.S., middle school is a step between elementary and high school for kids age 12-14 who are too mature for elementary school but not mature enough to be treated with real responsibility yet.
Expecting a child, and they are children, to go out and earn a living at 14 is ridiculous. Especially when it will be a horrible entry-level low-skill miserable job that will just make them unhappy.
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“It didn’t do me any harm” is not a reason to do something. And I would say that you have no idea how it harmed your development. People make that claim about getting beaten as kids too.
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So working at 13 years old guarantees you will be good with your money? Or not working at 13 years old guarantees you won’t?
Because it would seem to me that teaching children financial literacy would be a better plan than allowing corporations to benefit from child labor.
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Well you didn’t learn to spell “bollocks” for starters.
I was abandoned by my parents, didn’t do me any harm. Guess child abandonment should be legal according to your logic.
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No child abandonment is illegal. Surrendering your child is legal if done a certain amount of time after birth. Thanks for admitting you know nothing about these laws though.
So you will now quite happily send your 14 yr old daughter to go stand pulling pints in amongst a group of drunken men?
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Teenagers maybe. 14 yro in middle school? Absolutely not.
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Yes. That’s why I said Maybe