• BmeBenji
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    6 months ago

    It really pisses me off how right-wingers will look at this and believe they can honestly identify left-leaning politics as fascist by all of these indicators

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      Most of them apply to the Democratic party as well as the right wingers I’m afraid. So it’s easy for either side to point at the other saying “you’re the fascist” while ignoring the fascist things their team is doing.

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        6 months ago

        I mean, we could go down the list:

        Nationalism? Not really. Democrats aren’t the ones flying giant American flags off their giant trucks, or pulling “America First” junk.

        Disdain for human rights? If we’re talking about our own citizens, the Dems have been fighting for human rights. I don’t see how the Right (or anyone) could see them otherwise. Outside the US? Oh, absolutely, with their “Gaza is not a genocide” bullshit. But I don’t think the Right would consider that bad.

        Supremacy of the Military? I mean, not really. I mean, we’re still the US, when we lose innovation, manufacturing, and culture, our claim to fame will still be our gigantic military.

        Rampant Sexism? The party for women’s rights?

        Controlled mass media? I mean, they claim it, but if a dem does anything they get shit on, and Republicans get a pass (or desired publicity) way more.

        Obsession with national security? The Dems are the ones fighting Border Walls and whatnot.

        Religion and government intertwined? I mean, come on.

        Corporate power is protected? Yup, got’em there.

        Labor power is suppressed? They at least make a show of pushing back on it, but still yeah.

        Disdain for intellectuals and the arts? Again, come on.

        Obsession with crime and punishment? I wish they had more obsession with punishing corrupt politicians and white collar criminals.

        Rampant cronyism and corruption? Well, not as much cronyism, but definitely corruption. But I don’t think that’s particular of fascism.

        Fraudulent Elections? Calling an election fraudulent with no evidence, and in fact evidence to the contrary, is not in itself evidence of corruption.

        So, like, two and a half out of all of them. Hardly most.

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          na·tion·al·ism noun identification with one’s own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations. Dems support the US to the detriment of other nations pretty consistently… Iraq and Afghanistan for example.

          Dustin for human rights… Recent protests against genocide ring a bell? And that’s just in the US itself.

          Supremecy of the military… I don’t see many Dems voting or speaking against increasing the bloated military budget

          Sexism… I’ll give you this one, but I don’t really think people like Clinton are fighting sexism, they’re just warping it

          Controlled mass media… Self evident

          National security… Didn’t they just agree to continue Trump’s stupid ass wall? Aren’t they still locking up asylum seekers?

          Religion and government… They pretty much all lean into being Christians (but at least a few of them aren’t Christians)

          Corporate power… Yep

          Labor… Yep

          Intellectuals and the arts… As long as they agree with them… Again see recent protests

          Crime and punishment… Has Biden closed down the for profit prison system? Did I miss that?

          Corruption… Obviously

          Election fraud… The Clinton Bernie primary was pretty fraudulent in my book

          I think you’re confusing the Dems being ever so slightly less fascist than the Republicans, with them being not fascist