• Wanderer
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    1 month ago

    How is dune woke? The main character is a white guy. He cares about honour, doing the right thing, being strong and self dependent even in the face of adversary. He’s also the best and get treated as the best. The women are lying bitches who can’t be trusted. The natives can’t sort their shit out and need a white savour.

    • FrenchThrowAway@jlai.luOP
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      1 month ago

      The goal of Herbert’s books is exactly to denounce this, the religious savior works wonders by accomplishing the religious goals efficiently, but it turns into a nightmare as the people becomes fanatics and the leader too powerful. This second part starts at the end of the first book (around Villeneuve’s second movie), and it’s in my opinion what makes Dunes a meaningful story and not just another space Opera

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      Lol you clearly have only seen the movies or read the first book. Paul is definitely not doing the right thing, something he himself clearly states. Also Frank Herbert was woke for a middle to upper class white dude from the 60s so he still had some weird opinions about women but you’ve definitely missed the mark on his feelings about indigenous people. Dune is a satire of Lawrence of Arabia but the satire isnt fully evident without the third part to the story in dune messiah. Paul is a criticism of white saviors generally but specifically he is satire of charismatic leaders who wield their followings for terrible purposes. He sorts the natives shit out right into millions upon millions of them dying for a cause that doesnt really change their day to day lives.