cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4651235

Empire of Normality: Neurodiversity and Capitalism by Robert Chapman is what I’ll be exploring.

Anyone want to read along with me?

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    6 months ago

    Is there a specific reason for this? For an alternative?

    If you don’t like ProleWiki based on the fact that it is a “biased wiki”; how would making your own make it non-biased?

    Is there a reasonable argument against ProleWiki?

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      5 months ago

      I believe that ProleWiki shows favoritism toward other organizations while disregarding or defaming organizations like FRSO and CPUSA.

      In addition, it needs a broader working-class focus.

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        5 months ago

        The last part, could you elaborate more? It covers a lot of international movements and socialist history. I don’t think it’s focused towards the U.S at all; just that a lot of the common mythos about communism tends to come from the United States or the West in general. Do you feel it’s not focusing enough on other nations or organizations?

        Fair criticisms, but in the same sense; I think the leadership/upper echelons of CPUSA leadership might deserve some criticism themselves. Plenty of us understand more local branches are more serious nor willing to compromise with the Democrat Party. What exactly about their writings on FRSO do you not like?

        I think you also should realize ProleWiki has only a small group of people working on it. There is threads discussing on development and writing for it. Have you ever participated in those?

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          4 months ago

          It needs to show the CPUSA’s leadership point-of-view since most CPUSA members support the leadership.

          Also, the FRSO needs more attention from the Wiki.

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            4 months ago

            Is there a source behind that claim? Or anything suggesting that? In experience, CPUSA tends to have salted regionals differing from the leadership and others on here have mentioned that as well.

            I can agree with having their point of view, it helps to know what the other is thinking even if you disagree.

            I do not have experience with FRSO.

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              4 months ago

              We’ve never done that.

              Most CPUSA members from what I’ve talked to support the leadership.

              There is no proof that they dislike them.

              It doesn’t matter if you do or do not have experience with FRSO; you shouldn’t just ignore them.

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                4 months ago

                What? In my area CPUSA disavowed the Democrat line. I didn’t say members disliked them, either; just that they disagreed on a few decisions the leadership made. When I say “salted” I don’t mean they salted anyone; but people tend to be more radical at the grassroots level and have their own disagreements compared to the actual leaders of the party itself. Often from other parties or socialist ones.

                I didn’t say ignore FRSO either…just that I have no experience with them and I wouldn’t speak on them if I had no experience.

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                  4 months ago

                  Yeah, the CPUSA disavows the Democrat line in general.


                  “just that they disagreed on a few decisions the leadership made.”


                  You didn’t clarify that.


                  “but people tend to be more radical at the grassroots level and have their own disagreements compared to the actual leaders of the party itself. Often from other parties or socialist ones.”


                  That’s a generalization.


                  “I didn’t say ignore FRSO either…just that I have no experience with them and I wouldn’t speak on them if I had no experience.”


                  Then get someone that knows about the FRSO to write about them; stop ignoring them in your ProleWiki.

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                    4 months ago

                    I didn’t clarify that, correct, misuse of words. You have a point there, my mistake.

                    Joe Sims condemned Hamas. On the thread itself, CPUSA members were laughable in the attempt to console people or even provide for an explanation or justification for the leadership decisions. https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4773761?scrollToComments=true Right there, you can see examples of what I talked about, in people being consoled that local leadership/organization tends to be more radical than the leadership. Another generalization, sure; but it’s literally there for you to see and what other people’s experiences are with CPUSA.

                    You’re going to look me in the eye and tell me that the average communist agrees with that; that alone isn’t a remarkable difference between “leadership” and a massive chunk of communists who don’t compromise with Genocide or disavow the ones resisting it? Over what is one of the many important issues that we have and then aligning with the democrats like they did in the 80s to “vote away fascism!”? Come on.

                    That’s…my experience. Generalization if you put it broadly over others but I didn’t. I linked above to what I said earlier and other experiences with CPUSA that are similar. Perhaps, you being a member, can help me understand on why people SHOULD feel differently than from what I experienced than summarizing it as “well, that’s a generalization” when I said it was MY experience that I didn’t put over anyone else.

                    Also, I don’t moderate, edit or control any levers or anything regarding ProleWiki. Did you know there was a suggestions thread/box for ProleWiki? I didn’t see you there.