• areyouevenreal
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    6 months ago

    I never claimed to be Irish, so it wouldn’t surprise me if someone from another country had more Irish DNA than me. I’ve spent time in Spain but I would never, ever claim to Spanish because of that. Likewise if I found I had Spanish ancestors 2 or 3 generations ago, I might make a note of it but still wouldn’t make me Spanish. You’re nationality is always where you are born, or have citizenship from. Being a resident is not always the same as being a citizen either. A true citizen has a passport from the nation they are a citizen of. Even then we have a term for immigrants with citizenship - it’s called being a naturalized citizen.

    To be clear there is nothing wrong with being either a naturalized citizen or having ancestors from another land. What is a problem is people claiming to be something they aren’t based on their grandparents or great grandparents. If you didn’t grow up in Ireland, and haven’t been there for most of your life, you don’t have the same experience of actual Irish people. It’s not even about your DNA, which so many people can’t seem to understand. It’s about shared cultural experience.

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      6 months ago

      You made it about dna when you called me “Amerimutt” to imply I was a mutt. I don’t think you’re in a position to call anyone a mutt.

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        6 months ago

        That’s the term people use to describe Americans claiming to be something else (especially two or more different things like Irish and Scottish), precisely because it’s descriptive of America’s demographics while also being irritating to American’s like yourself who want to claim to be something else. It’s no one’s fault where they are born, raised, or where their family comes from. So why try and lie about it, or twist it? It just doesn’t make sense to me.

        Also fyi mutts are the healthiest kind of dog there is, because they have the least inbred genetic traits. Having genetics from multiple origins isn’t a bad thing biologically speaking, it can actually sometimes be beneficial.