If I recall correctly the maximum Noise Reduction Rating (NRR) for earplugs and earmuffs is around 30db. You can combine the two for a slight increase in hearing protection but you still hit a limit because of bone vibration.
Is there PPE out there to go even further beyond this? Where would it be commonly used?
ANC isn’t protective in any way. If anything it’s probably just as damaging. It’s taking the outside signal and flipping it 180 (out of phase) and putting that in your ear to eliminate it.
Remote Audio isn’t fucking around. Those cans squeeze the shit out of your head to get that -45db, but they work very well.
That’s just not true.
Your ear largely hears things through changes in air pressure. Projecting the same frequency and amplitude at the opposite phase prevents the change in air pressure in the first place. It’s literally cancelling the sound.
If you had loudspeakers on the outside of your head, and passive attenuation in your ears, yes that would reduce pressure for you, but everyone else would have experience an increase. But adding more pressure in the cavity of your ear to reduce pressure makes very little sense.
You’re so wrong about this. ANC pretty much eliminates pressure inside the ear canal. That’s how ANC works. No pressure waves, no sound, no damage.
You’re not adding more pressure anywhere; you’re cancelling that pressure out.
Except that’s exactly how nose canceling ear phones work. It’s not like they have an external speaker projecting sound 🤦🏼♂️
Mine work like this: “Got your nose. Neener neener neener.”
Holy shit, buddy. Yes. We flip a signal 180 degrees out of phase and that added pressure pushes the outside wave down. There is at no point a reduction of pressure in your ear, it’s just more pressure that makes it so you can’t hear the sound you are trying to remove. The perception of sound and air pressure are not the same thing.
Bro. It’s not “just more pressure.” It’s literally less pressure.
If there are water waves moving a boat up and down, and you actively apply some movement (ha! pressure!) to the water so you generate waves that cancel the existing ones so that the boat stands still, would you say “but you don’t understand, the boat is getting MORE PRESSURE!!! It’s being damaged!!!”? Of course not. It’s pretty much the same principle.
Get a highschool physics book, read the chapter about sound, and come back. Otherwise, just stop.
I know nothing about this subject, but my instinct would tell me that anc would actually be protective. If you phase out sound, it
seizesceases to exist, right? That is the whole point of it?Again, pure instincts, don’t know shit myself.
*ceases, FYI (not being snarky, maybe autoincorrect got you on voice to text)
Edit: also “seizes” used here was kinda funny
Thanks for the heads up. Non-native, always willing to learn.
This is partially correct, partially wrong.
As many have commented, flipping a signal by 180° cancels it out. However, this is only true for static noise though. Transient noise cannot be canceled out completely, because you would need to see into the future to know which signals to play to cancel out the noise.
The ANC headphones I own mainly cancel noise through passive shielding of the ears. The “active” noise canceling feature is not contributing a lot.