• WallEx@feddit.de
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    6 months ago

    So could Biden. Thats why you don’t allow those things for anyone. Simple as that.

    • Ace! _SL/S@ani.social
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      6 months ago

      Surveilance shouldn’t be a thing on hardware YOU own. Back in the day we called that shit Spyware, but it’s okay if it’s a Virus made by Google/Facebook/Amazon… The list goes on and on

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        6 months ago

        Yup. The only surveillance on my computers is what I put there, and it never leaves my network.

        I block pretty much everything else. I have ad-blockers, firewalls, routing rules, etc. If the government wants to surveil me, they’re going to need to put in some effort.

        • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Depending on your state, law enforcement can hire a dude with a drone and a sweet camera array, and do this without a warrant.

          You may think this qualifies as unreasonable search as per the fourth amendment to the Constitution of the United States, but some state supreme courts have said nah.

          And the US Supreme Court says that if an illegal, warrantless search by law enforcement reveals a crime severe enough, that evidence is admissible anyway, because it would be bad if a severe crime went unpunished.

          The severity of that crime: possession for personal use.

          This is the United States in the 2020s, not some dystopian fiction.

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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            I think that’s mostly true, but people can and do get off on 4th amendment defences, even for serious crimes like murder. So if the court recognizes that a search violated the 4th amendment, it’s not going to be admitted just because it’s a “serious crime.”

            But the police can and do pay private parties to do things that would be illegal for them to do. That loophole should be closed. Any use of information as evidence by law enforcement should require a subpoena, and maybe even requesting it for a lead should also require a subpoena.

            So if someone tips law enforcement off that I have a controlled substance on my property and are willing to provide evidence, law enforcement should be required to bring that in front of a judge along with their own evidence for why that source is trustworthy, especially in this age of AI when people can easily generate believable images. The standard for probable cause should be higher than it is.

            So as a mostly law abiding citizen, I’ll resist that nonsense. It’s the least I can do to look just like those who may be targeted by the police.

      • Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        There’s a massive massive difference between how Biden’s administration has uses the security state vs how Trump tried to use it last time and will use it next time.

        There’s literally no point to draw an equivalence between Trump and Biden than to diminish Trump’s fascism.

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    That’s why surveillance has been, is, and will always be an issue and something to be concerned about.

    All it takes is a concentrated power system to abuse that power and use surveillance to their benefit.

    Could you imagine if the Nazi’s had the amount of data, information, and surveillance capabilities of modern day US?

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      6 months ago

      Could you imagine if the Nazi’s had the amount of data, information, and surveillance capabilities of modern day US?

      you can look at today’s Israel and see your question partially answered

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    6 months ago

    Surveillance is already completely weaponized against protesters, activists and anyone who opposes hegemony in support of a sustainable planet.

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    6 months ago

    But we need all this surveillance for mah terr’ists and it’ll never be misused!

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 months ago

    This is why the One Ring needs to go to Gondor, so it will be safe in the hands of good people who mean well and will never be corrupted or succeeded by lesser heirs!

    ONE RING TO GONDOR!

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    Gee… wonder if this ever could have been predicted when Patriot Act was brought out.