• ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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      3 months ago

      Use this as a chance to leave your echo chamber. Illegal immigration is deeply unpopular, just like banning abortion, or firearm regulation.

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        3 months ago

        That is one area I diverge with the party. Abortion should be legal. Based on the voting, most republicans agree it should be legal. Based on polls, they don’t.

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        3 months ago

        I’m not in an echo chamber, but I’m a right winger who listens to a lot of right wing media and presumed that anti-illegal immigration is a predominantly right wing view. I had no idea that had shifted at all, I should listen to more left wing media though.

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            3 months ago

            Immigration is more complex than people make it out to be. I don’t think deportations make sense when our border is so porous, the people we deport could just return.

            But the biggest problems with illegal immigrants are cartel affiliants and potential terrorism ties. I’d be okay with letting illegal immigrants stay so long as they are participating in a formal process to become citizens, and are not being violent or committing crimes.

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              It’s even simpler than that. Zero government assistance and actually crack down on employers who hire them. I mean seriously, $500K per illegal hire, then actually prosecute them for doing it. Self deportation is a thing. And fix citizenship rules to end citizenship based on location. At least one parent must be a citizen or at least a permanent resident. No anchor babies.

              Once you remove the main incentives to come here for strictly economic reasons, you can focus on folks like cartels and dangerous people because you won’t be overwhelmed by the rest.

              The problem is thar doing these things steps on too many political toes on both sides.

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                  3 months ago

                  They can leave and go through the normal process to come back.
                  But I’m an admitted hard ass. The big problem is you can’t prove their story. You’ll get flooded with applicants just like we’re getting flooded with “asylum seekers” now.

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                  3 months ago

                  Of course. This is a serious adult approach to it. Not what we’re doing now.

                  Sadly there will be an amnesty at some point. I can see the Dems cutting a desk with Trump for a few billion dollars in wall funding in exchange for a ”one time” mass amnesty. I don’t trust that his ego wouldn’t take that deal.