I know that Cybertruck rusting is a fun narrative but it’s also not true.
Rust does indeed form on the surface of the body panels but it’s not the panels that are rusting. It’s the iron particles mostly from brake discs that are suspended in the air and land on the vehicle. These particles then react with the stainless steel causing rust to form. However this is just surface contamination which can be easily cleaned off. These same particles, called “fallout” get stuck to the paintjob of all cars and that’s why there are cleaning products specifically meant for getting rid of them. With other vehicles the rusting simply doesn’t occur due to the particles not making contact with metal because they have paint and clearcoat on them.
I have seen 304 stainless rust and rust so badly it gave out. There is a reason why anything that can rust near the ocean (where the bulk of the US population does live) has to be painted.
Yeah I’m not claiming that stainless steel can’t corrode. It can. This is usually due to galvanic series where two different kinds of metals are in contact and the less noble one starts to corrode. Kind of like iron particles on stainless steel. You can leave the car in the rain and it wont rust. This only occurs when there’s surface contaminates that react with the stainless steel panels.
Because it’s freaken bullshit. I am not even a car guy or a mechanical engineer but just by osmosis I have picked up enough knowledge that this is a rust bucket.
It needs gaskets, it needs primer, it needs paint, and it needs whatever magic anti-corrosion spray the auto makers use. Also it needs to be able to go into a carwash and not get bricked. This is stuff the auto industry figured out before my grandparents were born and yet his insufferable ego didn’t want to hear it.
So now everyone involved is losing their jobs except the one asshole who caused this mess to begin with. These are real people, they have spouses, kids, bills, hopes, careers, and other dependents. It’s easy to mock the rich morons who bought into this con it should give us all pause to think of the kids those auto workers have. By all accounts Tesla works people to insanity. Think of all those people who were terrified into unpaid overtime during their prime years with nothing to show for it but food stamps, messed up health, and a piece of crap that can’t go through a car wash.
Yeah I am taking this personally. I have been on projects that were broken by the incompetence and ego of a single person. I had to give it my all on a project that failed that shouldn’t have failed.
Carwash did not brick the car. Not being in a carwash mode caused the centre screen to go dark, everything else worked normally. This was likely due to water in the charging port. When the owner then tried to hard reset the vehicle there was a bug (that has now been patched) that caused the reset to take hours instead of minutes. The car was back up and running the next day with zero permanent damage.
christ, I feel like every time I hear anything new about brake particles, I wonder why we haven’t moved to some other material for them yet. ceramics, regenerative brakes that just charge a small battery or capacitor or something, that just exists on the wheel, fuckin something.
I know that Cybertruck rusting is a fun narrative but it’s also not true.
Rust does indeed form on the surface of the body panels but it’s not the panels that are rusting. It’s the iron particles mostly from brake discs that are suspended in the air and land on the vehicle. These particles then react with the stainless steel causing rust to form. However this is just surface contamination which can be easily cleaned off. These same particles, called “fallout” get stuck to the paintjob of all cars and that’s why there are cleaning products specifically meant for getting rid of them. With other vehicles the rusting simply doesn’t occur due to the particles not making contact with metal because they have paint and clearcoat on them.
I have seen 304 stainless rust and rust so badly it gave out. There is a reason why anything that can rust near the ocean (where the bulk of the US population does live) has to be painted.
Yeah I’m not claiming that stainless steel can’t corrode. It can. This is usually due to galvanic series where two different kinds of metals are in contact and the less noble one starts to corrode. Kind of like iron particles on stainless steel. You can leave the car in the rain and it wont rust. This only occurs when there’s surface contaminates that react with the stainless steel panels.
I have seen with my own eyes control panels made of 304 corrode without touching a different metal.
I believe you. I’m just not sure why you’re telling me this. At no point have I claimed that stainless steel is immune to corrosion.
Because it’s freaken bullshit. I am not even a car guy or a mechanical engineer but just by osmosis I have picked up enough knowledge that this is a rust bucket.
It needs gaskets, it needs primer, it needs paint, and it needs whatever magic anti-corrosion spray the auto makers use. Also it needs to be able to go into a carwash and not get bricked. This is stuff the auto industry figured out before my grandparents were born and yet his insufferable ego didn’t want to hear it.
So now everyone involved is losing their jobs except the one asshole who caused this mess to begin with. These are real people, they have spouses, kids, bills, hopes, careers, and other dependents. It’s easy to mock the rich morons who bought into this con it should give us all pause to think of the kids those auto workers have. By all accounts Tesla works people to insanity. Think of all those people who were terrified into unpaid overtime during their prime years with nothing to show for it but food stamps, messed up health, and a piece of crap that can’t go through a car wash.
Yeah I am taking this personally. I have been on projects that were broken by the incompetence and ego of a single person. I had to give it my all on a project that failed that shouldn’t have failed.
Carwash did not brick the car. Not being in a carwash mode caused the centre screen to go dark, everything else worked normally. This was likely due to water in the charging port. When the owner then tried to hard reset the vehicle there was a bug (that has now been patched) that caused the reset to take hours instead of minutes. The car was back up and running the next day with zero permanent damage.
christ, I feel like every time I hear anything new about brake particles, I wonder why we haven’t moved to some other material for them yet. ceramics, regenerative brakes that just charge a small battery or capacitor or something, that just exists on the wheel, fuckin something.
It’s surface rust is you clean it off immediately. Those rust particles will cause the stainless itself to rust if left in the surface.