To my knowledge, no one has a consistent definition as to what qualifies as ultra-processed, even yours there is a bit non-standard. We’re pretty sure twinkies are ultra processed, but then there’s questions on whether something like ground beef even with minimal/zero additives counts as processed or if we do add things to it, is it ultra-processed? Vegetable soup is probably pretty alright, but hey, it might qualify as ‘ultra-processed’, the qualifiers for it are a mess.
I agree with the sentiment they’re going for, i.e., we probably shouldn’t be eating twinkies as the cornerstone of our diet, but I wonder how these studies have shown how dangerous ultra-processed foods are when none of them seem to include a definition that you can consistently tie back to discrete items. It feels like we would all likely be better served by identifying the problematic elements (like the hydrogenated fats/etc) within the ultra-processed foods and focusing the conversation on those.
To my knowledge, no one has a consistent definition as to what qualifies as ultra-processed, even yours there is a bit non-standard. We’re pretty sure twinkies are ultra processed, but then there’s questions on whether something like ground beef even with minimal/zero additives counts as processed or if we do add things to it, is it ultra-processed? Vegetable soup is probably pretty alright, but hey, it might qualify as ‘ultra-processed’, the qualifiers for it are a mess.
I agree with the sentiment they’re going for, i.e., we probably shouldn’t be eating twinkies as the cornerstone of our diet, but I wonder how these studies have shown how dangerous ultra-processed foods are when none of them seem to include a definition that you can consistently tie back to discrete items. It feels like we would all likely be better served by identifying the problematic elements (like the hydrogenated fats/etc) within the ultra-processed foods and focusing the conversation on those.
The definitions are from the article.
I agree the focus should be on the things we already analyze, like amounts of sugar, fat, and nutrients
Yeah, I’m aware they’re from the article, but even you implied that those were a bit vague which was the point I was trying to strengthen.